есть [this](https://medium.com/@signalsintelligence/bob-lazar-shadows-f045a2be1d9c) статья о Бобе Лазаре, которую люди продолжают публиковать, чтобы дискредитировать его, и я открыт для этого, но я этого не понимаю. Все, что я понял из этого, это то, что он, вероятно, в спектре, у него была дерьмовая шоу для жены, и он не вписывался в стандартную систему образования. Является ли дискредитация скрытой? Я пропустил какую-то важную часть, где он сказал настоящую ложь?
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Discrediting someone is an extremely easy thing to do unfortunately. The court of public opinion is worthless, uninformed, unappealable, fickle and ultimately demented.
I’ve been researching Bob for several decades. He’s had failed business dealings and issues with money. However the majority of evidence that he’s a liar could either be classified as misremembering, part of character assassination and things he hasn’t had the opportunity to address. I’ve invested countless hours looking at all the evidence naysayers have put forward and I still think he’s telling the truth about what went down at S4.
To my knowledge, Bob is the only person who has claimed there’s a camouflaged hangar in a mountainside at Papoose Lake. Nobody else has claimed this. If it comes to light that there ever was a hangar at Papoose Lake I think we can close the book and say Lazar was telling the truth.
What’s the difference at this point? Doesn’t seem like there will be definitive proof on him one way or another. Best case for him he gets some kind of redemption alongside a more explicit disclosure but I don’t see what that does for anyone here aside from a mostly empty “I told you so.”
I’ve been a believer in Bob Lazar for well over a decade. But if he’s not gonna fucking testify, then I will 100% believe he was a fraud.
Now is the time. Fucking get up and testify! Do your duty! If he ain’t gonna swear on the record, then he’s full of shit.
Also, he’s legally bound to give up his element 115 to Congress. So if he’s not gonna do that, he’s either committing a federal crime, or he’s full of shit.
I am the author of the article you linked to.
I see my role as objectively conveying information. How this information is interpreted or evaluated is ultimately in the hands of the reader.
I recommend reading all of the articles I have published to get a more complete sense of who Bob Lazar is.
You may also find the updated Bob Lazar timeline helpful.
https://www.papooselake.org/the-updated-bob-lazar-timeline
His story has deviated from the original so…
Please look into his claims about having attended MIT.
Bob lazar named his high school chemistry teacher and his junior college professor when asked to name his professors at mit and cal tech. that doesn’t seem like misremembering, but a lie made up on the spot.
Look at the data, not the individual producing the data. Data doesn’t lie unless it’s incorrectly recorded and interpreted.
Yes, as other commentors, I also went into the backstory of Bob Lazar ages ago, and I used to believe him.
The thing is, he out right lied about a bunch of things, why would he do this, for instance, his qualifications, neither Caltec nor MIT have him on record, however Pierce has him on record, the exact same time he said he was at MIT, Bob cannot even recall one lecturer’s name, he says he is a physicist, however his role was a technician, his physicist role was self proclaimed.
The E115 issue, to me, we would eventually get there, we will also eventually get to E280 for all we know, call it what you want, but it doens’t take a phycisist to add the next available number in the periodic table.
This man even had his hands in some dirty prostitution ring, because this is what physicists do, right.
I don’t believe this man had anyting to do with E115 or S4 in the least, and his story is all heresay from others.
It’s an interesting read. It certainly doesn’t seem like an effort to discredit him, rather a quite honest and thorough presentation of what is known.
The most interesting aspect is certainly the security clearance. ‘Shitshow for a wife’ isn’t the relevant point. She was involved with an organised crime group. That sort of stuff would flag up massively when getting even low level security clearances. However, if she was putting false names of marriage certificates, etc, then it makes sense that they wouldn’t find out.
From the first time I saw him, I did not find Lazar, to be a believable person. Can’t put my finger on exactly why, but I thought he was bullshit, and the same goes for that mortician, in the Roswell case, Glen whatever.
How I see Bob Lazar, he had a job at Area 51, probably a low level job, he heard scuttlebutt about secret projects and UFO stuf at the local bar/canteen and has made a career out of it. I don’t believe for one minute he lead research on UAP.
They can’t stand it…. Bob was telling the truth the whole time.
I guess that’s the thing isn’t it. If there really was a discredit campaign against him any evidence against him could be falsified. People who flat out deny him forget this and people who believe him blindly ignore it. What we do know is he put a rocket engine on his damn Honda in his garage. And despite what someone told me no not your everyday person can do that.
He’s a fraud, do your research
https://youtu.be/Jl2356IOTrY
Lazar debunkers go quiet whenever you ask them how did he know when the flight tests were carried out at S4.
This is nonsense he is legit deal with it
In my experience they don’t try to discredit someone who’s lying. Always believed him always will.
People By the time you all decide to even Give him any lead way You should be hoping for a lasting Peace that will never come, once every thing is upsidedown and the battle ensues it’s gonna literally be assholes and elbows deep,good luck, Your gonna need it
The main thing with the discredit stuff is if it is true it would kill any chance he had at ever getting the kind of clearances you would need for this. The govt is extremely thorough in their back round checks and you would be disqualified for being tied to less shady stuff then he was.
That being said I think it would probably be possible for the govt to smear his name and education past so at this point who knows what is true. I have been into this stuff for a solid 20 years now and I have definitely gone back and forth on my feelings towards Lazar.
With the current snowball effect were all feeling in the community and with the current congress push for disclosure I think this makes Lazar look better then ever. I also think 90% of our govt and govt leaders are absolute trash cans so I also think that makes Lazar look better as well. We already know for a fact the govt is corrupt liars and most of them are career politicians that are completely self serving. At least with Lazar it us up for debate which makes him more believable then our govt for the time being.
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Nope. These weak, irrelevent character attacks are all the debunkers actually have on him. They hate him because it challenges their preconceived bias that aliens are impossible and it hurts their ego.