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And there in is the rub “do not compromise the national security” .. the Pentagon declared literally everything as national security. Even those “harmless objects” intercepted in Feb
«That do not compromise the national security of the United States.»
DoD: «Apologies, senator, everything compromises national security and, before you ask, nobody except us has the authority to inspect any potential non earth origin or NHI technology.»
«publicly known» allows for a potentially large loophole — there might be any number of military/etc. other sightings that are not known to the public and whose disclosure wouldn’t violate national security considerations. We already have reason to think that the Air Force, e.g., (referencing Christopher Mellon here), doesn’t want to disclose what it knows. This loophole, if it is one, would be welcomed by the secrecy faction.
I hope the language of the amendment is more bulletproof than that, because as is they can claim it does compromise national security even though it doesnt (like they already do).
Also publically known needs to go, publically and privately known, not just publically.
Wow…that’s very big news, isn’t it? I hope the amendment makes it past the finish line. Huge props to Burchett.
But depending on how it’s worded, the qualifier «that do not compromise the national security of the United States» could be an umbrella to cover up virtually all relevant or interesting documents regardless of how real their relevancy to national security really is.
Submission statement : Representative Tim Burchett just announced that his amendement requiring the DOD to declassify some UAP documents will be added in the NDAA
Oh yeah? That’s….interesting.I mean this is obviously ‘good’ on paper but let me provide an opposing thought:
This amendment was SO out there I thought there was zero chance. Do we think that including it in the bill makes the bill more likely to fail wholesale or less likely? I don’t have good enough insight into the fine workings of that. It’s part of an important bill that needs to pass right? Looking for a smart U.S citizen to clera that up a bit for me?
Hey u/Anon2World if you’re looking to help by releasing the data that you’re legally allowed to, finding these documents/videos after they’re declassified and leaking them to the public at large could speed up this process.
While I understand alot of the cynicism displayed in this comments section, I have to point out that this is possibly the first time a Rep has called out the DoD publicly on this issue. Kinda a big deal if you ask me….
I think the man did his best. More than likely his original amendment was worded more in our favor until it was revised and revised and revised to become a moot point.
“That do not compromise the national security of the United States.“
So, they will release nothing. Because that will be used as a catch-all to withhold basically any and all intelligence they’re collecting on the topic.
And there in is the rub “do not compromise the national security” .. the Pentagon declared literally everything as national security. Even those “harmless objects” intercepted in Feb
«That do not compromise the national security of the United States.»
DoD: «Apologies, senator, everything compromises national security and, before you ask, nobody except us has the authority to inspect any potential non earth origin or NHI technology.»
«publicly known» allows for a potentially large loophole — there might be any number of military/etc. other sightings that are not known to the public and whose disclosure wouldn’t violate national security considerations. We already have reason to think that the Air Force, e.g., (referencing Christopher Mellon here), doesn’t want to disclose what it knows. This loophole, if it is one, would be welcomed by the secrecy faction.
I hope the language of the amendment is more bulletproof than that, because as is they can claim it does compromise national security even though it doesnt (like they already do).
Also publically known needs to go, publically and privately known, not just publically.
Wow…that’s very big news, isn’t it? I hope the amendment makes it past the finish line. Huge props to Burchett.
But depending on how it’s worded, the qualifier «that do not compromise the national security of the United States» could be an umbrella to cover up virtually all relevant or interesting documents regardless of how real their relevancy to national security really is.
I really love what this guy, Gillibrand, and Rubio are doing. Excellent bipartisanship on disclosure.
Submission statement : Representative Tim Burchett just announced that his amendement requiring the DOD to declassify some UAP documents will be added in the NDAA
Oh yeah? That’s….interesting.I mean this is obviously ‘good’ on paper but let me provide an opposing thought:
This amendment was SO out there I thought there was zero chance. Do we think that including it in the bill makes the bill more likely to fail wholesale or less likely? I don’t have good enough insight into the fine workings of that. It’s part of an important bill that needs to pass right? Looking for a smart U.S citizen to clera that up a bit for me?
Edit: LESS likely. I just woke up. 😀
https://www.washingtonian.com/2023/07/12/dcs-ufo-lobbyist-on-alien-spacecraft-claims-this-thing-is-getting-ready-to-blow-sky-high/
💥💥💥 disclosure getting prepped… Biden gonna drop the bomb on us after the hearings.
My fellow Americans, we got ET Bin Laden. We’ve buried him in a base. Made some cool toys. Now, we gonna nuke shit with impunity.
Cash Landrum and Rendlesham please!!
Hey u/Anon2World if you’re looking to help by releasing the data that you’re legally allowed to, finding these documents/videos after they’re declassified and leaking them to the public at large could speed up this process.
While I understand alot of the cynicism displayed in this comments section, I have to point out that this is possibly the first time a Rep has called out the DoD publicly on this issue. Kinda a big deal if you ask me….
Define “national security.” 🤦🏻♂️
DOD will just say it compromises the «national security» of the US, whether it does or doesn’t, and won’t have to provide proof the contrary.
That is a bit underwhelming, unless there is clear and measured language on what is a threat to national security or not.
Also, I’m wondering if Tim had a specific publicly known event(s) in mind he knows there is some undeservedly classified goodies for.
It is confidential and compromises our national security, every flipping time with our government.
Hmmm….if it’s in US airspace and not flying under military or FAA guidelines…doesnt it constitute a threat to national defense?
I know the bill hasn’t passed yet but it feels loke for the first time in awhile our representatives are able to work together on something.
I think the man did his best. More than likely his original amendment was worded more in our favor until it was revised and revised and revised to become a moot point.
Wow, Rep. Tim Burchett is on fire! He is really going all in on this. Very commendable.
Great news! However, it is likely to cost a lot of money and time-consuming busy work to implement.
How is that different that FOIA?
“That do not compromise the national security of the United States.“
So, they will release nothing. Because that will be used as a catch-all to withhold basically any and all intelligence they’re collecting on the topic.
Take out *do not compromise…. “ otherwise they’ll say everything does