Спустя месяц после того, как статья Лесли Кин и Сэма Блюменталя «Дебрифинг» о Дэвиде Груше была опубликована, а интервью Росса Култхарта News Nation транслировалось, это интервью на шоу Эзры Кляйна стало единственным освещением, которое New York Times предоставила по поводу взрывоопасных обвинений Груша.

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Я считаю, что отказ влиятельных новостных агентств МСМ адекватно освещать эту тему не случаен. Я подозреваю, что летающие тарелки угрожают всей земной элите, но не обязательно жителям Земли, которые заслуживают мира, безопасности, процветания, защиты окружающей среды и открытого контакта с нечеловеческим разумом, ответственным за то, что сейчас называется UAP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjAyxA4sI1k

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  1. Jezz, what a super easy way to control the media, and they would fall for it, too. «Every time I cover UFOs, I get a ton of emails that say how dare you waste our time.»

    You sure those are all from your «listeners?» Make it shitty for the journalist every time they cover the subject and they will think twice before doing it again.

  2. Realize that the allegations that we the public heard/saw are the tip of the iceberg. Grusch and others were able to provide the “cold hard proof” we all want, legally to congress in closed-door meetings that already happened (under oath). This is far from “one man’s testimony”.

  3. Explosive allegations come and go. The ones that have staying power have more to support them than hearsay.

    Let’s give Grusch a little time to prove his allegations of crashed alien UFO’s and dead aliens…a little time, but not indefinitely.

  4. A lot of people seem to be saying this is just one man’s heresay testimony, where’s the proof?

    A legitimate point, except that he says he has the proof, but the DoD won’t let him reveal it. They gave him limited permission to do interviews, but would not allow him to release the evidence that backs him up.

    So it’s a classic Catch-22 situation. If he reveals the classified info that proves him wrong, he gets arrested and goes to jail. If he doesn’t, he’s accused of making it all up and not providing proof. The government laughs at the trap they created for him.

    But here’s the thing: If what he’s saying is a lie, how could the evidence he has be classified? It must be lies, BS, a nothing-burger. Releasing it could not possibly harm national security, because it would just be made up nonsense.

    So the mere fact that the DoD won’t allow him to release the evidence he claims to have strongly, and I mean STRONGLY, suggests that what he’s saying is the truth.

    And of course there have been whistleblowers in the past, but no one as highly placed in the security apparatus as he is. No one with his clearances. Even so, his account matches some others, like Bob Lazar, who were much lower on the scale. And we must remember, Grusch was literally tasked with the job of investigating what the government knew about UFOs and ET contact. Literally, this was his job. And he was frustrated that what was being reported to congress didn’t match up with what he had found to be true from numerous sources and evidence. And so that made him choose the whistleblower route.

    And so here we are, with people demanding proof from him, that he’s not allowed to reveal. He’s revealed it to high security meetings in congress, but again, he can’t reveal it to us. But members of congress who have seen it are extremely impressed, even gobsmacked by what they have seen. So let’s not pile on him until we’ve seen the evidence he’s already given to those with security clearances.

    And rather than pressuring him to reveal his evidence (which would land him in prison), let’s put pressure on the DoD to declassify this info and let us see at least some of it. Like Roswell or the Italian crash retrieval, which shouldn’t be classified in any case being so long ago.

  5. I couldn’t listen to the for more than five minutes, their heads were so firmly up their own arses. Normally I’ll hear people out even if I disagree…

    Ergh they were ugly as

  6. I agree, it is no accident. I suspect that mainstream media relies on a good relationship with the DoD for information and they don’t want to jeopardize it by amplifying Grusch.

  7. What threatens our society is rampant speculation. Nobody should be too excited until actual evidence is produced. There’s so much wild conjecture going on and the UFO community wonders why they’re still considered kooks? Y’all need some cold water thrown on your imaginations. Get on YouTube and watch some corridor crew debunking the UFO videos for a little reality check.

  8. Opinion columnist Ross Douthat wrote about Grusch in the New York Times, so it’s just not true to say the Ezra Klein is the only instance. There was also an episode of Matter of Opinion (a weekly New York Times podcast) dedicated to the topic.

  9. first of all, please call MSM for what it is .. the unites states department of miscommunications

    second they will only cover our interstellar friends when they set the stage for the impending ‘alien war’ so they can initiate marshall law 😔

  10. People are obsessed with David gruesch or however you spell his name, but honestly I wasn’t impressed with his interview. And he made a lot of vague answers. So you’re saying that you’ve recovered dead bodies?? «I can say that with a crash there are usually dead pilots» oh wow really? You don’t say? Answer the question I thought you were a whistle blower

  11. Of course it is no accident. Most of these stories are so clearly bullshit it’s hard to believe anyone takes them seriously at all. You think the mainstream media is going to report on some guy telling a podcast host that there are crashed UFOs no one knows about that are so big they are hidden inside buildings?

  12. As a Conservative, seeing the media colluding by ignoring something they should be covering is nothing new. We have to keep pushing forward regardless. We need to make sure Congress does their part in exposing the truth. At some point they will not be able to ignore it.

  13. Ungh.

    It’s not that extraterrestrials would ruin things for the “elites”. Well, it probably would, but that’s not the issue.

    The issue is that it’s NOT extraterrestrials, at least not how we think of them. The beings flying and/or controlling the craft are 100% humans that have disconnected their relationship with Earth, using ancient technology left behind by our evolutionary ancestors.

    The fact that those in power have known this and have zero control or any kind of tech even near them would instantly topple the elites from power.

    Basically they’d have to admit they’ve been lying and are not “top dog” of the human species. They’re just as powerless as we peasants are when compared to the tech these breakaway humans have.

    And the elites know the truth will leak out from time to time, so the disinformation campaign of “Solar Warden” was created to buy more time. Sooner or later with private space exploration, the cat’s out of the bag.

  14. Be Careful!, What You Ask For? They Are Not Of God! This Is Actually A Spiritual Matter! Why? Do People Speak The Name Of Jesus ? For There Abduction To Be Stopped! And It Works! And It Is All That Does! Besides One Thing I Did! I Just Said I Am Going Back To Sleep? Do o What You Want! Your Going To Anyway Showing No Fear? Bothered Them! Realize And Think? Why Now? Are They Allowing Information Of Any kind To Be Released? Because These Beings Are Roghe ! Our Military Cannot Control Them! And These Beings Have Done Something?, Planned Something? Ohh!, And Our Military Actually Has The Etherians ,/Greys Old Crafts? So If Ships Appear Saying Give Up Your Firearms ! DON’T

  15. I’m so convinced after listening to the nyt opinion podcast about this topic that they’re all just too cool to admit that they are curious about something as out there as aliens and ufos.

    Major news outlets totally are the cool guy from high school who pretend they know everything and then try to shit on people for likening things that aren’t traditionally cool. It’s just so bizarre.

    They’ll publish an Astrology section in their news paper but scoff at the idea that aliens and ufos are real. It’s a joke actually.

    They actually posted this article.. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/04/style/astrology-co-star-ai.html

  16. I listened to the interview. Ezra was well prepared for the interview and did a great job of posing the most common concerns in a respectful manner.

    Sadly, Leslie had no strong rebuttal for any of his concerns. She basically admitted that she doesn’t understand why he was cleared to speak publicly. She can’t explain why what he said doesn’t violate his security clearance oath. She admits that the story is built on hearsay. She can’t explain why no digital files have been leaked, when this is the easiest way for a whistleblower to remain anonymous. She can’t explain why nobody with firsthand knowledge has come forward.

    If you wanted to have the credibility of the event bolstered, this interview only undermines it.

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