Заявление Дэвида Груша (в ответ на ложь Стивена Грира)

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Заявление Дэвида Груша (в ответ на ложь Стивена Грира)

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  1. You know this is burning Greer up. He wants to be the one who gets credit for disclosure.

    At one point in time when he did his first press hearing back in 2001, he was actually doing good work. Not sure what happened after that but he became less and less credible under his own doing. It all went to his head maybe. Or after he didn’t get anywhere he tried to just make money from it? Who knows. I do think he’s done some great work for the subject, but overall he’s just the wrong guy for the job.

  2. This is an unfortunate pattern with Dr. Greer.

    He for example did a similar thing to the late [Edgar Mitchell](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Mitchell).

    https://web.archive.org/web/20230128234504/https://rense.com/general10/mitch.htm

    Quotes:
    > (Edgar Mitchell) I cooperated with Steve Greer some years ago, but he began to overreach his data continuously, necessitating a withdrawal by myself, and, I believe, several others. I have requested to be removed from any web site, announcements, etc., but see that has not taken place.

    and
    > (Edgar Mitchell) Although I firmly believe it is time for openness and disclosure by government, I object to being misused in this fashion and acquire guilt by association with certain claims that simply are not true.

    and
    > (Edgar Mitchell) I, nor any crew I was on (I was on three Apollo crews), received any briefing before or after flights on UFO events, saw anything in space suggesting UFOs or structures on the moon, etc. We did it just like we said in official reports. My only claim to knowledge of these events is from the individuals, mostly of yesteryear, who were in government, intelligence, or military; were there, saw what they saw, and now believe it should be made public. But I claim no first hand knowledge, nor have any. Pass it on to the rest of the net, if you will.

  3. I’ve said it before: Greer started out with good, honest intentions and contributions to the field and then… something happened. Whatever changed in him, it’s clear he’s a grifter now and it’s patently obvious from recent interviews (the ToE interview in particular gave me massive second-hand embarrassment) that he’s bitter because the UFO community has moved on to other things and left him behind.

  4. I’m curious about the next weaponized podcast. I started to completely dislike that duo, with their BS flares and triangle ufos videos, and just like Greer they will feel missed out so I’m pretty sure they have been assembling a shitton of mud to throw at the guy. This was also pretty much hinted at already by Corbell in one of his tweets

  5. Saw that coming a mile away. I was fooled by Greer for a month or so. And while I sincerely appreciate the beginnings of his inquiry, and the subsequent inertia towards disclosure; the fact is that Greer has become a cartoon. Money does that I suppose.

  6. Honestly, I do not respect Steven Greer at all. I believe his claims about CE5 are completely ridiculous and doesn’t hold any water. How is he not seen as the one true grifter in ufo space? He literally made a documentary to sell his app. He tried to convince people that you could telepathically communicate with aliens. What a ridiculous notion.

  7. Distancing himself from Greer is commendable.

    According to transcriptionist and fanboy, UFO Joe, however, his first point of contact was the Corbell/Knapp combo… that doesn’t bode well

  8. I am always shocked about how many people here defend Greer. I understand we don’t want to discredit anyone we feel is on «our side»…. but Greer is a GRIFTER…. period…

    -He sells fake experiences for people to come with him to «summon» UFOs
    -The «summoned» UFOs are clearly always drones with a small light situated very far away
    -He promotes all kinds of weird supernatural philosophies that have nothing to do with the UFO phenomenon
    -His bizarre, made-up narrative is not consistent with anyone else in the UFO community and genuinely makes no sense. It’s clear he’s trying to create his own brand of UFO ideology that he is solely the spokesman of.

    Stop defending this dude, for the love of god!!!

  9. Before you attack..

    Do people only dislike Greer because he profits off the subject?

    Is it possible for people to profit off the subject and still be truthful?

    Has Greer been caught lying for profit directly?

    Sometimes I think people parrot the hate for Greer and don’t really know why.. He definitely seems scummy imo but just because I think he’s a grifter doesn’t mean that I should ignore his history in the subject.

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