Any international articles about this yet? Here in Finland when the initial Pentagon article came out, our biggest news agencies reported on it. So far nothing on this though, which is odd because this goes beyond US.
**EDIT**: Seems like Yle (Finland’s national public broadcasting company) has posted an article about it but they’ve attached Pentagon’s response to the title («leaker claims usa is hiding UFOs — Pentagon to Yle: No evidence of extraterrestrial technology») so it comes across as fairly disingenuous.
Here’s a hot take. What Graves is doing here is not drip-feeding details leading up to proof. This story getting picked up by other news outlets does not on its own validate the story. No, Graves is serving a really important role and I think he knows it. He cannot legally share anything classified. If he showed a picture, even as a whistleblower, he’s going to prison. What he CAN do is blow the whistle and drum up public interest and attention such that the people who can share classified info are compelled to do so.
If enough news readers are calling their elected reps, and if enough momentum for details rises to the right level, then we may see whole branches of government begin to reframe how this topic is discussed and what is shared. Graves is pushing a little snowball down a mountain side, and news coverage helps it turn into an avalanche.
I write this because I see many people saying «pics or it didn’t happen.» And Graves just can’t deliver that. We shouldn’t expect him to. Nor should we view press coverage as validation. Everything that’s happening now is the prelude to more info, so long as the story doesn’t die on the vine. That’s why press mentions are important, not because they are evidence that Graves is being honest.
This topic drives an unending loop of existential questioning for me.
The more I look, the more questions I have. I think when it comes to our place on earth, our evolution, our technology, our religions, and much of what we’ve been taught about human history….. is WRONG.
I don’t know what it will take for normies to care about this. It has the potential to rewrite our history.
Submission statement: Fox News has become the first major mainstream news outlet to cover the David Grusch UAP whistleblower story that appeared in The Debrief yesterday, and furthering the audience reach of this fascinating article. Resubmitted to remove controversial post title and remain non-biased politically 🙂
Wapo and nyt will follow. Kean and Blume had difficulty wording that first DOD drop. Other mainstream publications will follow but they need time to measure their words accordingly
«Well, naturally, when you recover something that’s either landed or crashed. Sometimes you encounter dead pilots and believe it or not, as fantastical as that sounds, it’s true.»
I feel crazy reading stuff like this. You’re telling me people have laid eyes on actual extraterrestrials? Like all this time science has been launching massive telescopes into space, trying to answer the question of «are we alone?, and some secret government operatives have just been… recovering and cataloguing alien bodies? Like, there are supposed to be people out there who have actual contact with aliens on this Earth, and are somehow keeping that shit a secret? How do you sleep at night having seen what you’ve seen? How do you not tell another soul about it?
I know we’re all obsessed with the craft and all, but I seriously don’t get how statements like these are just buried in the reports like it’s no big deal.
If David Grusch is lying then he is going to Federal Prison for a long time. This isn’t some guy taking a picture of a dinner plate with a potato phone.
It’s a Federal Official Whistleblowing and testifying before Congress and starting an IG Investigation at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
Which should be enough for journalists to go «Hey, this might be a thing.»
I unsuccessfully tried to share this news link on some news subreddits. But the censorship is strong. Makes me really wonder what they also censor on those subreddits. What a bullshit man. News is news, let the people vote up and down i’d say. Edit: spelling
It just appeared on my windows 11 machine, the little breaking news indicator in bottom left of taskbar turned red and I hovered over it and saw this video. Awesome to see it being brought back into public’s mind in such a prominent way
I reeeeeally hope this doesn’t get pigeonholed into a political right/left argument. Thinking about this further, it doesn’t surprise me so much that FOX has taken the story, after all the left has the presidency. The silence from WaPo and NYT is deafening.
I’ve been thinking about how things would change if it is officially announced that there are aliens out there. I have come to the conclusion that I would say «huh that’s cool» and then go back to my life. Unless the government says they are coming and want to blow up the planet, life will go on pretty normally really. It be a bit more interesting looking up at the stars but that’s about it.
People saying «but it’s Fox» are missing the significance here. Yes, Fox News posts a lot of extreme far right opinion trash, but they are still a news organization and not only that, the most watched one in the United States. Millions of people will be exposed to this story because of this coverage and it will get some people talking that otherwise would have just shrugged it off.
2nd Ryan Graves interview I’ve seen tied to this specific article. I wonder why they chose him specifically to include in these interviews. No David Fravor or Lue «Clues» Elizondo?
Newsweek just posted it too
The reader comments are hilarious and depressing at the same time
Not only that, it’s the TOP STORY on foxnews.com right now!!!
Any international articles about this yet? Here in Finland when the initial Pentagon article came out, our biggest news agencies reported on it. So far nothing on this though, which is odd because this goes beyond US.
**EDIT**: Seems like Yle (Finland’s national public broadcasting company) has posted an article about it but they’ve attached Pentagon’s response to the title («leaker claims usa is hiding UFOs — Pentagon to Yle: No evidence of extraterrestrial technology») so it comes across as fairly disingenuous.
Lol why are the comments on the article all about Biden and democrats?
Here’s a hot take. What Graves is doing here is not drip-feeding details leading up to proof. This story getting picked up by other news outlets does not on its own validate the story. No, Graves is serving a really important role and I think he knows it. He cannot legally share anything classified. If he showed a picture, even as a whistleblower, he’s going to prison. What he CAN do is blow the whistle and drum up public interest and attention such that the people who can share classified info are compelled to do so.
If enough news readers are calling their elected reps, and if enough momentum for details rises to the right level, then we may see whole branches of government begin to reframe how this topic is discussed and what is shared. Graves is pushing a little snowball down a mountain side, and news coverage helps it turn into an avalanche.
I write this because I see many people saying «pics or it didn’t happen.» And Graves just can’t deliver that. We shouldn’t expect him to. Nor should we view press coverage as validation. Everything that’s happening now is the prelude to more info, so long as the story doesn’t die on the vine. That’s why press mentions are important, not because they are evidence that Graves is being honest.
Independent as well: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/ufo-whisteblower-david-grusch-b2352358.html
Snowball effect.
This topic drives an unending loop of existential questioning for me.
The more I look, the more questions I have. I think when it comes to our place on earth, our evolution, our technology, our religions, and much of what we’ve been taught about human history….. is WRONG.
I don’t know what it will take for normies to care about this. It has the potential to rewrite our history.
[news.com.au](https://news.com.au)
Just posted an article.
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https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/space/intelligence-whistleblower-claims-us-has-retrieved-craft-of-nonhuman-origin/news-story/effecbf0e0489a31d2175fc3717715bf
Submission statement: Fox News has become the first major mainstream news outlet to cover the David Grusch UAP whistleblower story that appeared in The Debrief yesterday, and furthering the audience reach of this fascinating article. Resubmitted to remove controversial post title and remain non-biased politically 🙂
Wapo and nyt will follow. Kean and Blume had difficulty wording that first DOD drop. Other mainstream publications will follow but they need time to measure their words accordingly
EVERYBODY GET IN HERE! FRONT PAGE TOP STORY!
«Well, naturally, when you recover something that’s either landed or
crashed. Sometimes you encounter dead pilots and believe it or not, as
fantastical as that sounds, it’s true.»
I feel crazy reading stuff like this. You’re telling me people have laid eyes on actual extraterrestrials? Like all this time science has been launching massive telescopes into space, trying to answer the question of «are we alone?, and some secret government operatives have just been… recovering and cataloguing alien bodies? Like, there are supposed to be people out there who have actual contact with aliens on this Earth, and are somehow keeping that shit a secret? How do you sleep at night having seen what you’ve seen? How do you not tell another soul about it?
I know we’re all obsessed with the craft and all, but I seriously don’t get how statements like these are just buried in the reports like it’s no big deal.
COME ON BABY
I still think people don’t care because of financial issues like “ yeah aliens cool I got rent due” just my opinion
Why is this coming out now, and why are they allowing it? Something bigger on the way?
I am so over the moon to see this story getting picked up
The brass tax:
If David Grusch is lying then he is going to Federal Prison for a long time. This isn’t some guy taking a picture of a dinner plate with a potato phone.
It’s a Federal Official Whistleblowing and testifying before Congress and starting an IG Investigation at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
Which should be enough for journalists to go «Hey, this might be a thing.»
I unsuccessfully tried to share this news link on some news subreddits. But the censorship is strong. Makes me really wonder what they also censor on those subreddits. What a bullshit man. News is news, let the people vote up and down i’d say. Edit: spelling
Maybe my girlfriend will finally believe me
Lol fox has the largest audience of all msm — qanon aren’t watching fox
It just appeared on my windows 11 machine, the little breaking news indicator in bottom left of taskbar turned red and I hovered over it and saw this video. Awesome to see it being brought back into public’s mind in such a prominent way
I reeeeeally hope this doesn’t get pigeonholed into a political right/left argument. Thinking about this further, it doesn’t surprise me so much that FOX has taken the story, after all the left has the presidency. The silence from WaPo and NYT is deafening.
Well, at least it’s a major news source
Why does this feel like a genuine real news article with non bias information. It’s unusually truthful, lol. I love it.
Patiently waiting for CNN to report on the topic.
Ok we’re stepping in the right direction. I’ll be surprised if this news will become more relevant than Taylor Swift and Matt Healy breaking up.
I’ve been thinking about how things would change if it is officially announced that there are aliens out there. I have come to the conclusion that I would say «huh that’s cool» and then go back to my life. Unless the government says they are coming and want to blow up the planet, life will go on pretty normally really. It be a bit more interesting looking up at the stars but that’s about it.
Took them long enough. The people are ready. Lay it on us.
I’m gonna need more popcorn. This is fascinating stuff, and it’s getting harder to dismiss these guys as crackpots
People saying «but it’s Fox» are missing the significance here. Yes, Fox News posts a lot of extreme far right opinion trash, but they are still a news organization and not only that, the most watched one in the United States. Millions of people will be exposed to this story because of this coverage and it will get some people talking that otherwise would have just shrugged it off.
2nd Ryan Graves interview I’ve seen tied to this specific article. I wonder why they chose him specifically to include in these interviews. No David Fravor or Lue «Clues» Elizondo?
We all need to write to our representatives — I’ve never done anything like that but if there was ever a time do it, I believe that time is now.
This whole UFO topic is like being led on by a really hot girl that keeps saying she’s going to sleep with you next week
Matt Drudge posted this story yesterday, and by today, it was taken down.
US collects intact UFOs in secret program: report
New York Post
US collects intact UFOs as part of secret program, Air Force veteran claims
https://nypost.com/2023/06/06/us-collects-intact-ufo-crafts-in-secret-program-report/