Ответ британского депутата на мое письмо с вопросом об участии Великобритании в программе Five Eyes UAP

Submission statement:

I wrote to my local MP last week asking for information on the alleged participation of the UK in retrieval programs.

I got an answer today. All and all, nothing I didn’t expect. «Thank you, but no thank you».

It’s good they at least mention Mr. Grusch by name. But to counter that it got turned down by mainstream papers and instead posted on an independent website as some kind of attack on the credibility of the story is a joke.

Please reply to further inform them of the credibility of the authors. Their NYT story is what started this whole recent movement in 2017. They’re the same authors with the same rigour in their journalistic work. They haven’t changed. The papers have changed. Those papers have had no issue running stories with anonymous sources in the past.

Also important to note: the fact that he has testified under oath, icig finding his complaint credible and urgent regarding hidden SAPs and reprisals against him, the more recent quotes from Congress people, NHI whistleblowers clemency legal changes, firsthand witnesses having testified.

There’s so much happening that you could inform them on. The fact that it didn’t get published in those mainstream papers has to be weakest argument against the legitimacy of the story. It’s more an argument for the failure of modern journalism. Only independent journalists do investigative journalism these days.

Haha that’s some clever wording there in that response.

Dear Right Honorable [X],

Thank you for your response to my letter regarding the possible participation of the UK in the retrieval of alien craft as alleged by David Grusch. I appreciate your time and attention to this matter, and I commend you on your knowledge of the recent whistleblower report.

I acknowledge that you are correct in stating that mainstream outlets such as Politico and The New York Times did not pick up the story of the whistleblower; however, I would like to point out that it was indeed The New York Times that ran a few years ago the first report in a prestigious newspaper of the U.S government funding programs to study the appearance of UFOs through the Pentagon after picking up on radar and other devices crafts moving in ways that totally defy our understanding of physics.

I also acknowledge that Politico ran an editorial by Chris Mellon, a former US government official, who strongly suggested that there was something of great significance happening on the topic of UFOs. This editorial was printed by Politico only days before the article in The Debrief on Grusch.

Furthermore, I would like to note that the U.S government, a close ally and intelligence partner of the U.K, has begun hearings on UFOs and has recently started drafting laws on the topic of UFOs particularly with regard to the protection of whistleblowers on any possible hidden programs. Credible and connected members of the Congress, including Senator Marco Rubio, have in recent days made public comments through the news media lending some credibility to the allegations of the whistleblower.

I conclude with an acknowledgment of the fact that there is still so much we don’t know, and that the events of recent weeks and years suggest that the UK’s decision to close its UFO desk seems strange given the broader context of the rapid evolution of this topic in recent years.

I urge you to keep an open mind on this issue and to advocate for re-opening of the office as well as reasonable and appropriate attention to this matter by the government.

Thank you for your service and leadership.

Sincerely,

Your name

Here’s the response I got:

Thank you very much for contacting me about Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO) sightings.

I appreciate that this is an issue you take an interest in. Please be assured that the Government takes any unauthorised incursions into UK airspace exceptionally seriously.

The Ministry of Defence previously had a specific desk that investigated claims of UFO sightings, but this was closed in 2009 as it was considered unnecessary. Despite being in operation for more than 50 years, no UFO report revealed any evidence of any potential threat to the United Kingdom. Furthermore, with an upsurge in reporting in the years before its closure, it was clear that the level of resources diverted to this task was increasingly coming at the detriment of other more urgent activities.

It is my understanding that the Government has no plans to replace the UFO desk.

I hope this provides some clarity on the government’s approach on this matter. I am grateful to you for highlighting this issue with me.

a balanced, factual and appropriately responsive reply to your request. kudos to you for making the request and to your [deleted] MP for replying in such a respectful manner.

So the US has disclosed that there are UAPs in American air space, that are a threat to national security, but UK airspace is different?

I’ve recently been analysing the data from the UK FOIA release.

The data shows minimal reports from 1997 to 2007 and then a massive uptick in late 2008 into 2009. There were multiple corroborated sightings in the South East on or around July 2009.

It’s also worth noting that these are not just reports from the general public, around 10% are captured as being reported by Pilots, Police officers, Navy personnel, journalists and, more frequently, air traffic controllers.

Also worth mentioning that it was reporters discretion as to whether their profession or even name was recorded. It could be reasonable to speculate that there were reports by similar credible witnesses where the profession was not recorded.

I am still working with the data; but I’m happy to share an interactive report in my findings.

Edit; OP, if you want any input in responding to the MP, please let me know, I’d be happy to share what I know.

I would’ve been somewhat fine with their answer but the part about NYT and POLITICO…..

Is this really the standard the most powerful countries governments operate on? If the NYT doesn’t write about it, it’s not an issue/a thing?
If I were you, I’d invest an hour or two into a fine rebuttal.

I’d help you, but I had some drinks and this isn’t even my first language…but damn, I still think there are broad possibilities for a spicy rebuttal.

«ThE nEw YoRk TiMeS dIdN’t….» — textbook argument to authority. Cringe.

No one cares about Grusch, just us

Translation= We aren’t really concerned about UFOs in The UK, we’re counting on the Americans to handle this issue…good luck with that & keep your eyes peeled for those Cloaking UFOs.

What did you expect?

The part about publications declining the story… What a slap in the face, with a healthy dose of «well ackshually». All it does is make them sound like a smartass.

Closed in 2009 when the Ministry of Cocaine & Hookers was also binned.

*Completely* ignores your question about five eyes involvement by reframing your question exclusively around US activities.

It seems the UK defence for not knowing anything is based on either (a) we can’t be bothered or (b) we haven’t got any money to pay for it. That’s about sums up where the UK now sits on the great table of power.

You appear to believe that the Uk government could hold secret information on UFOs. Are you serious? Have you paid any attention to what this government has been doing for the past decade? Have you somehow failed to notice how pathetic the current uk government is?

This is the house of cards that so easily comes cashing down on this subject. The idea (very American tv movie idea) that governments are these intelligent, powerful shadowy teams of professionals that can control the masses with ingenious plots. They not.
They’re largely unqualified, out of touch Luddite’s that are in their positions through nepotism and back patting. Some of these people are the most clueless fools you could wish to meet. They couldn’t keep a secret like this if their lives depended on it.

It’s the same with military personal. Hollywood has got us all believing that the military are the best of the best, highly skilled experts that never make mistakes, rather than the truth, which is many of them are only in the army because they failed school, weren’t good at anything else or forced into it through family tradition. And yet apparently, we believe hundreds of these guys turn up to find aliens in a crashed spaceship, cart it all off and just never say anything about it again.

If there is any truth to any of this, it’s much smaller and self contained, like a single rogue department and have compartmentalised it so well, that no single person in the department knows much about any of it. It will not be world wide and so well hidden that a government enquiry wouldn’t even be able to find it anyway.