Вы упускаете суть. Это не должно быть «раскрытием» или «доказательством». Это серьезный сдвиг в повествовании и путеводная звезда для официального расследования.

Absolutely. It’s amazing how people here feel they have the moral authority to feign horror that they’ve not been given a free ride on a space ship.

I’m already fed-up of explaining to people just how big this is, if they don’t get it or like it, move on.

I’ve spent decades following this topic and this is by far the biggest break-through I’ve ever seen.

I quite agree with the broad strokes I just can’t help feel, for than simply a narrative — this is the opening gambit in a legal chess game.

As things stand, one side has to lie in order to maintain it’s story: this isn’t new, this is actually how the UFO narrative has been for years, locked in a perpetual stalemate — this is a direct attempt to catch the DoD out in a *direct* lie while under oath.

That *can* be prosecuted, legally. All our talk of little grey men and retrieved extraterrestrial technology really isn’t — and never has — ever gotten anyone terribly far.

Yes, it’s gotten us to the point of re-opening Congressional interest but, realistically — this route is never going to lead to any kind of disclosure the UFO Community want. As anyone who’s been following this know, The UAP Transparency Act effectively circumvents *all* established public right to know mechanisms procedures — the public hearings are just for show, actual classified briefings take part behind closed session: Congressional hearings are more about Congress assessing it’s potential liabilities inherited from *previous* administrations.

You’re not going to get «disclosure» via that route — however, kind of like the way the FBI eventually got Al Capone on Tax Evasion rather than his other criminal activities — a case like this, that of a respected, decorated former officer directly accusing the DoD of lying under oath — *that* pushes proceedings into territory the Law can actually act upon.

Whoever’s behind the legal team backing David Grusch — and, whoever they are, they’re clearly not without considerable financial resource — knows the DoD *has* to lie in order to discredit or refute any of Mr Grusch’s claims, hence why this very publicly mounted challenge to the DoD.

Grusch’s legal team are perfectly prepared to let this go to trial — it’s what they want, they know — in the public arena, debate about this will just go an and one without any kind of resolution for years and, as far as the Congressional route goes — Congress are under absolutely zero compulsion to release any of its actual findings to the public, as I say — that hope was stymied with the drafting of the actual act itself.

Therefore, they — whoever is backing David Grusch — seriously are looking for this to go to court, one way or the other.

In fact they’re counting on it, and the DoD have no way to avoid it. It’s already something of a fait accompli…

I completely agree. I wish more people kept their cool about all this. I believe this whistleblower, but for many people this still sounds crazy. Disclosure needs to be installed, and we just got another percent on the installation bar.

Legal weed AND the government is lifting the veil of secrecy with respect to UAPs, extraterrestrial life, and recovered craft. Whoda thunk it?

Can someone explain to me why this is an argument? Not specific to this headline but the argument of whether he is full of crap or telling the truth. Once he swears under oath and testifies that’s that done deal. If he lies under oath well he gets arrested. If they refuse to say anything and he doesn’t get arrested that speaks miles. If they do say something that would be incredible. So under what circumstance are people thinking he’s full of crap? Like do they think he isn’t going to testify when push comes to shove? We shall see but ask your self why this man would ruin his reputation if he just backs out, he ruins his life if he lies under oath. Where is the Lie and win scenario if he is BSing I’m genuinely curious I’m wondering what the circumstances are where this David Grusch wins if he’s full of crap. Where is the win for him? I mean it appears no body would put them selves into this circumstance if they were lying.

Grusch is like a hunting dog pointing to the prey.

He’s saying, «Hey congress, look over here…»

It’s kind of crazy that we are here with this being a news headline. But it’s scary that the American government is the leading push on all the «global disclosure» sure would be terrible if this was all leading up to a false flag attack by «aliens» somewhere on earth using top of the line tech that has been mistaken for alien all these years. It’s terrible to say but America has been SUPER Shady in the past and using BS to make money off of other people’s lives. Can’t waste an oppertunity now can they? But this is crazy talk…. Is it?

People aren’t «missing the point» — you’re just being way more favourable with your interpretation of events. You’re excusing a lack of evidence with narrative and peripheral fluff. That isn’t meaningful.

Yeah, so until there is physical evidence, it literally is innuendo and beating around the bush.

On this very sub this was hyped as «Disclosure» and now you’re moving the goalposts to accommodate someone who’s becoming an obvious grifter.

If we want to be taken seriously, we can’t just take somebody’s «Source: trust me bro» word for it. We. Need. Proof.

“This is huge, but you won’t know it’s huge until after it’s over.”

Kind of a shifty way to say we’re never gonna know if this is legit, until if one day they say it is.

Aka every other non factual claim.

I agree with all that, and I can only assume those who want hard evidence or consider all this rubbish are people who have followed this for exactly 5 or less years. Anyone who has followed this for decades knows what a big deal this is.

That said, I don’t agree that AARO is moving anything forward. There is one roadblock.. one branch of the government that has been a stone wall for over 70 years. Why would we trust a supposed group created by them to study UAP? I think like Grudge, like Bluebook, AARO is there to create lies and disinformation and attempt to sweep this back under the rug.

They are constructing a narrative that allows for disclosure without collapsing the government. It’s a exit strategy.

Well said and thank you. The point is how this is being talked about and by who is vastly different than anything ever seen through this struggle between everyday citizens and the US government. I’m not surprised at how easily people take this down rabbit holes to try and discredit that this is a big deal.

I acknowledge no proof and no hard evidence BUT having a government intelligence professional speak openly and publicly and a huge shift in the narrative from the government. Most of what he said we have discussed or have heard. It’s who we are hearing from and the context around their claims that is valuable.

This is the way.

Can someone please do an eli5? English is my second language and I’m from Europe, I have no idea about those political lines, who does what and which position is higher than the other etc. Especially I don’t understand how this is not supposed to be evidence but a shift?

I always believed there are aliens, but none that were visiting earth. They must have lost their minds to visit us or be simultaneously immensely intelligent for those aircrafts and absolutely dumb to contact idiots like us, who fuck up everything we touch.

And just think what you’ll know tomorrow. -K

Whats so different from what David G is saying vs what Lazar said? Same thing. We know Lazar has never changed his story, always said same thing. David is saying same basically.

>We’re heading in the right direction. But don’t expect most people to take this as «proof» or «evidence» that aliens or UFOs exist, because that’s not what this is.

>It’s a change in narrative, and intel for official investigation.

Very well said.

See, I would change it to …

This is *now* proof. This is *now* evidence. This is *now* disclosure.

*Provided* … Grusch is not lying, they produce the documents/evidence they claim he has, and Congress exerts its power and the IG does as well.

The claims are huge. Now back them up.

Seeing Tucker bring it up blew my mind. Still am confused how that topics not exploding here. I’m not a fan of his, but he has a HUGE following. That’s a lot of new eyes on a subject from a man they trust a lot.