WTF: UAP — это зонды с корабля-носителя инопланетян. Шон Киркпатрик говорит, что Ави Леб опубликовал проект документа без разрешения. Киркпатрик: Этот документ был в черновом варианте, когда он просочился. На самом деле мы еще не закончили эту статью, и перед ее выходом ее пришлось долго редактировать.

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WTF: UAP — это зонды с корабля-носителя инопланетян. Шон Киркпатрик говорит, что Ави Леб опубликовал проект документа без разрешения. Киркпатрик: Этот документ был в черновом варианте, когда он просочился. На самом деле мы еще не закончили эту статью, и перед ее выходом ее пришлось долго редактировать.

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  1. It means that Kirkpatrick is on his way out.

    Like him or hate him he had to walk a really fine line. Like most in these programs he probably sees the writing on the wall and that he was being used as a scapegoat.

    He was about to retire and they brought him back for this. It was never going to be a permanent thing. My guess is wants to be on the right side of history and will spend the next few months cleaning his reputation up a bit all while alluding to disclosure without really saying it.

  2. This is the same paper reported on by politico and others back in April and was released ( apparently without Kirkpatricks permission, if you believe him ) back in March . )

    Wonder why he waited 8 months after the fact to complain about this ? .

    Many of us , including myself, have cited this paper in the past few months as being proof he literally changed his of point of view on UAP the day he took over the AARO program. And since then become nothing more than a paid pentagon disinformation agent

    That is , until 2 days ago, when he surprisingly admitted, that it , it turns out that at least some of Grusch claims are true. ( which he has known all along )

    Let’s hope Battelle’s oak ridge national lab management company . Terminates his consulting contact before he even gets started .

    It makes no sense whatsoever that they would hire anyone from a high profile government job , who’s well known to the press and has a major online presence.

    This is 100% the type of person Battelle would normally never ever consider hiring .

    This whole situation around Kirkpatrick , his public behavior and statements , and his new employer is just fucking weird .

  3. “That was just a joke draft. I mean obviously it’s not aliens. We waste our time penning bullshit into our scientific analysis reports all the time here, but it’s just for funzies. We always usually try to make sure to remove the fake stuff before papers go out for review.”

  4. «David Grusch is a unique instance in that he has refused to come and share any of that information. We still can’t get him to come in. I’ve got five different people who have gone to talk to him to get him to come in. And the answers have always been everything from “We’re not cleared” to “It would jeopardize his whistleblower protections” to “Why can’t we just go get the information that he shared from the IG?” It’s every excuse that I have heard, why not to come in. And that’s been a challenge because now here we are, we’re about to put out Volume One of the historical review, which I believe captures most all of the people that he’s spoken with, but I can’t say that 100 percent because I can’t hear what he thinks he has. If he has evidence, I need to know what that is.»

    I do believe DG has said that that above quote is a lie. I wonder who’s telling the truth? Maybe we’ll know next year when Kirkpatrick leaves.

  5. I take anything Avi Loeb says with a heavy grain of salt. That guy is pretty well known in scientific circles as being a guy that is solely focused on having his name in papers. He has published hundreds of scientific papers consisting of vapid ‘thought experiments’ and unproven conjecture just to catch headlines. Sorry guys, but disclosure is not going to come from Harvard, especially Avi Loeb.

  6. Yea I feel like Kirkpatrick realizes that the general population knows enough now that he can’t keep peddling the «we don’t know what they are» narrative, and he’s probably tired of lieing. Like others have said, he wants to be on the right side of history. So he’s changing his tune real quick.

  7. KP was the government’s mushroom. Told nothing, meant to placate the masses, but shit went south with Grusch and he found himself alone out to sea. Sort of feel bad for the dude. Played like a stooge by those in charge.

  8. Don’t you guys know, if you think there are aliens, you are laughingstocks; fast forward ~80 years- Aliens are real, we have all this evidence. Signed: The Government.

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  9. **Seligman**: Is that why you wrote that paper with Harvard professor Avi Loeb about the theory that UAPs are probes from an alien mothership?

    **Kirkpatrick**: That was the start of that work where we were looking at, if you want to believe these hypotheses, what are the signatures that you would expect to see from that? Because if I don’t see any of those signatures, with any of the data that we see, then that’s not a valid hypothesis. That’s how science works. Right? You have to have a hypothesis. You have to have measurables with that hypothesis, and then your data has to meet it. And you have to lay that out in a peer-reviewed journal so that you have something to pin it against.

    **Seligman**: That paper though with your name attached made it look like you were backing the theory. Is this something that you regret?

    **Kirkpatrick**: That paper was in draft when it was leaked. We hadn’t actually finished that paper and it needed a lot of editing before it went out.

  10. I may be delusional but maybe he bought us some time in a good way. I have learned SO much from the community in the past few years, and I imagine I wouldn’t have had this access and community if the “truth” were revealed before we had a solid chance to build up these modern internet-based UAP communities. The stress has gotten so real that it’s oddly acceptable to talk about “aliens” and “UFOs” at work! Personally I’m loving the opportunity to not be called crazy for once. Until recently it felt like a dirty little secret to tell someone you’re interested in anything other than what’s in the high school text books.

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