Что вы будете делать, если Конгресс выйдет и скажет, что они ничего не нашли?

AARO is a Title 10 program. This crash retrieval thing would likely be Title 50. If Congress is counting on AARO to produce anything, I feel everyone is in for a rude awakening.

edit: I linked what I’m about to below but want to add it here. Yes, I’m a skeptic and I’ve also been interested in the topic a *long* time and have seen my share of «investigations», supposed insiders and a boatload of people wanting to sell the truth.

I am not impressed with *ANY* of these personalities. Not Elizondo, not Nolan, Mellon or even Leslie Kean. Im impressed with Grusch for his credentials but…no proof. I know, I know «classified». I’ve actually defended him with that. Im just making all that clear before this:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/five-eyes-ufo-briefing-1.6868907

That is not nothing. I don’t know wtf required 5 Eyes getting briefed but you don’t ask them to help gather intel with all that expensive tech unless you gave them a reason to be interested or concerned. There is a chance, *a fucking chance* so don’t go placing bets on it, that its being set up to go «Ermageeerd! We actually found NHI !!!» in order to not have to go back and hold people accountible and for the face of the government to have culpable deniability about the past.

I dunno but I know Five Eyes meeting about UAP is an even bigger story than Grusch.

So… we all need to be looking at this like a murder mystery on a train. The kind where there are 10 other people on the train, any and/or all of whom may have reason to lie to you.

How do you solve the murder? There are no photos or video of the act; all you have is testimony from 10 strangers. Do you just give up?

Of course not. You start talking to the witnesses, correlating data points, evaluating credibility, etc.

But, importantly, you operate in a framework of PROBABILITIES, not absolutes.

Say one witness tells you, «I was in the room next to the victim at 10pm, by myself. I heard a scream, a thud, then the door opening and footsteps heading to the front of the train. I didn’t leave my room because I was scared.»

Many in this sub would say, «This witnesses didn’t even see the murder, and they don’t have quality photos or video of it. Another nothing-burger.»

But there’s a lot of information in that witness statement. You may have a time of murder; it sounds like a single attacker; they went towards the front of the train after the crime. Further, maybe without thinking about it, the witness gave you information about themselves: they were near the scene of the crime, and alone.

Keeping in mind that this person might be lying to you, and might even be the killer themselves, you have a lot of information points to start corroborating.

As you progress through the witnesses, you’ll uncover some inconsistencies and outright lies, some of which may have nothing to do with the crime at all.

But you’ll also find that a common narrative will start to emerge, and you’ll have a BETTER IDEA of the truth. Not proof, necessarily, but a reasonable and probable sequence of events corroborated by testimony and other evidence.

That’s where we are right now, but one of those 10 people on the train is Congress.

This is what I fear if they started raiding aerospace contractors and those cunning folks decided to relocate early before the police came out. resulting to the continuity of the stigma. There should be a counter moves to prevent this from happening.

That’s tough. I could see it happening and agree with you that it is kind of a pivotal moment with regard to acknowledging extraterrestrial life.

Personally, the evidence presented recently has proven to me beyond a reasonable doubt that they do exist. I don’t know what that means for me as an individual. If they refuse to go public with it I will at this point think that they are lying. I don’t know that I will flip my life upside down over it but I am at this point convinced that these people are telling the truth.

Nothing i guess. I know they are real and anyone who does some research will come to the same conclusion.

Then we must make it clear that this is a voting issue

They need to have really strong evidence and reason to ask special access. I dont think this is it, you need a bigger bombshell. Unless Grush delivered them something so big there is a reason for congress to push this. Honestly i think the last three years made it so this subject is taken seriously by more people. Our goverment will keep doing what it does. But if people feel like they can talk about it safely and not been seen like crazy and more important be believed it will happen one of these days somebody really leaks something like a video or pictures and documents.

When Ross Coulthart said that multiple congresspeople have confirmed to him privately that they know the truth, and when Grusch said members of the Gang of Eight know, it was concerning to me, but it makes sense.

Now we know why Congress tends to just ignore this shit. I hope the hearings bear fruit.

People suddenly «believing» Congress is a weird idea.

People currently are in denial. They can’t imagine these claims to be true and they don’t want them to be true, because it’s too much mental effort even to start contemplating the implications.

This whole topic has been for the entire time of its existence about the struggle for truth with government/authority.

The discrepancy leading to its existence is obviously a discrepancy in reality vs narrative of the government, not some absurd conspiracy hoax going on for decades.

In my opinion that’s a huge test to Grusch. He claims to have the proof but won’t show it. If the congress flops the investigation and he has the meanings to do the disclosure but keeps quiet, in my opinion it means he is full of bullshit. He basically would have ended his career to become another UFO celebrity that goes to Joe Rogan yearly to talk about crazy theories, while he could easily become the most important person to mankind after Jesus. It doesn’t make sense at all.

Well I think if congress finds nothing there really are two immediate possibilities right. Either theres nothing and all the hoaxters get put into jail and are fined or perhaps if it actually is true, then I think the pro disclosure officials would probably be pushed to leak classified documents if theyre really serious about it.

Shrug and go about my day. If there are aliens out there, they will make themselves known whenever they are ready and there will be nothing the world governments can do about it.

I do feel badly for people who were convinced Grusch was some type of civilization shifting event.

This is what I fear if they started raiding aerospace contractors and those cunning folks decided to relocate early before the police came out. resulting to the continuity of the stigma. There should be a counter moves to prevent this from happening.

What I’ve been doing all my life. Live my life. I know what I saw. What congress says or doesn’t say will have an effect on me.

It’s going to be pretty hard to ignore with more whistleblowers giving testimony. 6 more testified last month and potentially up to 2 dozen are going through the process to get clearance to speak out. We are just at the beginning of this.

I hate to tell you this but …

I just don’t think that the govt coming out and saying “no such thing” will stop the grifting or the people who want to believe.

Conspiracy theories will always surround this topic. It’s just so exciting to fantasize about and everyone loved a good mystery.

As much as I want things to be true, I can’t see the govt coming out and saying a secret programme within itself has been running and the public has been lied too. I just can’t see it.