Слухи об НЛО побуждают к публикации правительственных файлов — WSJ


Слухи об НЛО побуждают к публикации правительственных файлов — WSJ

Слухи об НЛО побуждают к публикации правительственных файлов — WSJ

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  1. WASHINGTON—Congressional interest in UFOs is reaching new heights.

    The latest version of the Senate’s defense-policy bill contains bipartisan provisions designed to gather and declassify documents related to unidentified flying objects, including mysterious aerial phenomena of this world—and potentially others. And next week, a House Oversight subcommittee is set to hear from witnesses who claim to have seen evidence of crafts of nonhuman origin, as Congress increases scrutiny of the perplexing sightings.

    While UFOs have drawn the public’s attention for decades, lawmakers have expressed heightened concerns after the shootdown of a Chinese spy balloon and several other objects over North America this year, as well as fresh claims about unexplained aircraft that appear to employ technology beyond known military capabilities.

    “Sunlight is the best disinfectant,” said Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D., N.Y.) of the declassification plan for unidentified anomalous phenomena, or UAPs, the catchall term for UFOs. “It will be very helpful for the American people to see exactly what’s there. Because otherwise there are all sorts of rumors flying around.”

    The Senate’s UAP provisions, part of its version of this year’s National Defense Authorization Act, would give federal agencies 300 days to hand over UAP-related documents to a newly established review board with the power to declassify them. The proposal is modeled after a 1992 law declassifying documents related to President John F. Kennedy’s assassination, requiring public release within 25 years.

    The House passed its NDAA bill last week, largely along party lines. The Senate is expected to pass its version before the August recess. House and Senate lawmakers will meet privately in a conference committee to produce a compromise bill that must pass both chambers before heading to President Biden’s desk for his signature.

    ‘It will be very helpful for the American people to see exactly what’s there,’ says Sen. Chuck Schumer of the declassification plan for UAPs.

    The UAP measure is backed by a bipartisan group of senators including Kirsten Gillibrand (D., N.Y.), Marco Rubio (R., Fla.), Mike Rounds (R., S.D.), Martin Heinrich (D., N.M.) and Todd Young (R., Ind.).
    The measure would direct the National Archives to designate a records collection, then inquire with all government offices about what records fall under the UAP umbrella. Those records would be immediately disclosed to the review board overseeing the collection. If some records are sensitive, then the review board would have to justify why those records must stay classified.

    “We think long term, just like with the JFK files, it would be better to have it in one location,” Rounds said of the collection plan.

    Others doubted that the proposed system would yield anything interesting, because of the government’s desire to keep sensitive matters under wraps.
    “C’mon, we’ll never see it,” said Sen. Josh Hawley (R., Mo.) about files related to UFOs. “The JFK stuff is a great example of that. We have a huge overclassification problem.”

    While the continued release of JFK documents hasn’t put to rest theories about his assassination, some have yielded interesting disclosures. For instance, a memo from former FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover released in 2017 detailed his frustration over law enforcement’s failure to keep Lee Harvey Oswald alive long enough to get his confession.

    Members of the House Oversight Committee will hold a hearing about UFOs next Wednesday. Witnesses include David Grusch, a former intelligence official who has publicly claimed that the U.S. government has possession of aircraft of a nonhuman origin.
    Some in the government “don’t want this to come to light,” said Rep. Tim Burchett (R., Tenn.) at a press conference Thursday previewing the hearing.

    A video display of a UAP during a hearing of the House Intelligence, Counterterrorism, Counterintelligence, and Counterproliferation Subcommittee last year.

    U.S. defense officials released videos of unidentified flying objects last year during the first congressional hearing on the subject in more than half a century, as the Pentagon moved to assure the public it was being transparent about UAP reports.

    “This is rather extraordinary,” said Stephen Bassett, a longtime lobbyist and UFO believer who has waited for this issue to bubble up on the Hill for two decades. “We have competition among various members of Congress, between the House and the Senate, to see who can be more aggressive on the UAP issue.”
    The Pentagon last year established the classified All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office, or AARO. According to a report by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the AARO has reviewed 366 reports of the phenomena that most people refer to as UFOs. Of those, 171 “demonstrated unusual flight characteristics or performance capabilities, and require further analysis.”

    Of the total discovered, 163 were balloons or balloon-like entities, and about six were categorized as clutter, which could include birds or airborne debris such as plastic bags, the report said.

    How should the U.S. track reports of aerial phenomena? Join the conversation below.
    The defense bill will also provide increased funding to the AARO, which was created in last year’s defense bill but didn’t receive enough funds because of a mistake in the appropriations fund. The measure, backed by Gillibrand and Rubio, doesn’t disclose either the original or new funding amounts, which are classified. The office works with other federal agencies to detect objects of interest near military installations or other areas of interest.
    Amid the renewed scrutiny of UAPs, those with experience in the skies and in space were skeptical about whether extraterrestrials were involved.
    Sen. Mark Kelly (D., Ariz.), a former astronaut, said there “are very legitimate questions from intelligent people” about aerial phenomena that the legislation is trying to address. “And then there are the folks that wear the tinfoil hats, and you’re not going to satisfy them,” he said.

    “I never saw one,” Rep. Don Bacon (R., Neb.), a retired Air Force brigadier general, said of UFOs. “If I did, I’d have shot it down.”

  2. Wow did it finally happen, some mainstream media has stopped ignoring the biggest story in human history?

    This one may cause all the rest to follow suit.

    I cant read it because of the paywall. Going purely by the title «ufo rumors», it sounds like it will be a halfbaked article.

    Edit: just read it. Its ok, it mentions grusch at least. They still dont get that he and his statements are the main story, and not some tangentially related detail. It takes some effort and time to wake them up from their slumber but its starting.

  3. “I never saw one,” Rep. Don Bacon (R., Neb.), a retired Air Force brigadier general, said of UFOs. “If I did, I’d have shot it down.”

    Most stupid, macho quote I’ve perhaps ever read.

  4. WSJ had one of the largest readerships of any newspaper in the world (even though it’s strictly paywalled). The word «rumor» in the title is obviously biased and incorrect considering the background of the source (Grusch), but this feels like progress. Can anyone with access to this article sum it up for those of us who don’t subscribe? What’s the tone?

  5. Submission statement: The Wall Street Journal released an article related to ufos.

    UFO Rumors Prompt Push for Release of Government’s Files. Senators say JFK-style declassification effort will help address public’s concerns about aerial phenomena.

  6. What’s this?? More mainstream media picking up the story??

    But half the sub was all angry that this hearing was a nothing burger and no one would cover it. /S

    Ffs people. WSJ, FOX, NBC, ABC, NYtimes, The Guardian,Forbes, news nation have all covered either the upcoming hearing and or the senate disclosure legislation.

    People need to chill. Just because a alien body won’t be shown on Wednesday doesn’t mean this isn’t all happening.

    Disclosure is certainly happening and it takes some time for the snowball to avalanche.

  7. Don’t cover your ass by attributing «This is rather extraordinary» to a UFO lobbyist, as if this was a matter of conservatism vs progressivism. Analyze the legislation and simply state unconditionally that this is freaking extraordinary.

    * The President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992 collected Assassination records.
    * An assassination record is related to the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, that was created or made available for use by, obtained by, or otherwise came into the possession of [Congress/Agencies]
    * The UAP Disclosure Act will collect UAP Records.
    * A UAP Record is any record/material related to **UAPs/UFOs/USOs/Flying Saucer/Flying Disc, Biological evidence for non-human intelligence, Legacy program, Meta-materials, Technologies of unknown origin** — and more — in possession or control or [Congress/Agencies/**Private Entity**], including via contract or other agreement.
    * Oh, and Government exercises eminent domain over it.

    Sick of legacy media spending more energy covering their ass than covering the news, though I know we need ’em for credibility.

  8. So just to clarify — Schumer’s bill is an amendment to the senate version of the NDAA? Its not in the house version, which already passed, and both chambers have to meet later to agree that it remains?

    Aside from Schumer’s bill is there anything else in the NDAA that is UAP related, at risk of not sticking around?

    I’m just concerned that the NDAA is not passed, and there are too many windows for the stuff that needs to be passed, to be blocked or cut.

    Anyone know how that works?

  9. «Rumors» is a funny way to describe thousands of reports from thousands of people that are trained pilots both military and commercial. I dont see how such an extremely well documented occurance can even be called «rumors.» These people saw these things with their own eyes, and cameras, and high tech cutting edge military equipment that was double checked for errors.

  10. Rumors were what we had in the past.
    NOW we have credible government witness’s, varying levels of accounts and documentation that ask for this situation to be thoroughly investigated.

    And I want to add real quick, like most governments, ours has a history of doing very very shady shit and denying it up & down….only for some of those situations to get caught red handed trying to
    cover up those «rumours»!!! So it’s not like they are anywhere near credible in their denials.

    History has heard that before…and they lied, maimed, killed, experimented on citizens, tortured others,funneled illegally cash to projects…ETC.
    I have little confidence in most of our institutions, the few good eggs within cannot compete with those that act without any honor

  11. Mainstream media is having a massively hard time saying the following:

    __Grusch is claiming that the government has *ALIEN BODIES*.__

    I really hope they focus more on that in next week’s hearings. THAT is the truly world changing news.

  12. Aliens or not, why do people act as if those involved in top secret operations are just going to hand everything over to reps in Congress? I’m not trying to troll, I just honestly don’t get it. Of course most (if not all) members of Congress are unaware of the black programs currently existing; Truman didn’t even know about the Manhattan project *while he was Vice President*.

  13. The mainstream outlets continue to show why they’re fading.

    It used to be they all wanted to get the scoop and dug hard to find it. Now days it’s just lazy propagandists pushing thinly veiled opinion pieces

  14. This quote sounds to me like they plan to use this to stop the UFO conspiracy theories and I feel you are all being duped. This is their “everyone expecting a raise announcement is about to hear about the pizza party” moment.

    “Sunlight is the best disinfectant,” said Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D., N.Y.) of the declassification plan for unidentified anomalous phenomena, or UAPs, the catchall term for UFOs. “It will be very helpful for the American people to see exactly what’s there. Because otherwise there are all sorts of rumors flying around.””

  15. This is a start, I think. I keep feeling like this is slow disclosure. As more corroborating info and even legislation from the Senate Majority Leader with bipartisan support regarding UAP and NHI makes this seem surreal. News agencies are barely touching on the important details yet, so much slower than usual with stories. Could it be that someone in government is pushing for them to back off publishing?

    Mostly News Nation and The Hill cover this stuff, but they don’t have much to lose compared to the major news networks. Maybe the govt wants it this way by design?

  16. This is a jumbled mashup of topics and points that completely misses it’s mark.

    Not a single text quote from the bill? Really?

    What about “Credible evidence and testimony exists” or “to avoid technological surprise” for instance…

    They’re not even pretending to try..

  17. I see they changed it, but I wonder when the government ever released secret files because of the «rumors».

    Were that ever the case, they’d be no more secrecy.

    Yeah, it’s rumors + super-high clearance people testifying + tons of classified photos and videos seen by the legislative branch on both sides of the aisle + near-misses + range foulers that already had impact, according to the Pentagon speaker + metallic balls flying with no visible means of propulsion. And rumors, yes.

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