Я немного смущен этим. Столб электропередач на обоих снимках выглядит по-разному. Похоже снято в разное время? или перспективы? Я что-то пропустил? Или была проложена дополнительная линия за 20 секунд.
Two time-stamped original photos of the Twentynine Palms "UFO" over 19 seconds show a distinct descent from 2021:04:20 20:24:01 to 20:24:20.
Overlaid with much later image, shows a MASSIVE descent, movement, and position change.
Flares. pic.twitter.com/Zc3FJyinAg
— Mick West (@MickWest) May 25, 2023
Fair play to Mick on this one, convincingly debunked. Saves most us all a lot of time — there will always be those who just can’t comprehend that every single report isn’t 100% legit.
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I’m over Corbell and Knapp. They get waaaay too much leeway within the UFO community, I’ve tried watching their podcast, but 50% of it, at a minimum, is just the two of them reminiscing about the first few times they met, and complimenting each other endlessly and saying how much they respect one another, and why they decided to work together, and why us the listeners, should also trust in their integrity.
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They keep retelling the same few stories ad nauseam, and they have been doing this for years. The same few Bob Lazar stories, retold over and over by a wide eyed Jeremy Corbell, like each time it’s brand new and impossible to deny evidence.
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How many times have you heard Corbell claim the reason why he doesn’t release material from his secret vault, is because he has to, without question, prove somethings authenticity beyond any shadow of a doubt, because his reputation is on the line.
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And then they drop this stink bomb, debunked within a few hours of release. How long has he been sitting on this «verifying its authenticity».
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Also, Corbell response to the debunking on a news show, didn’t help his case. He still tried to claim there is «craft clearly visible» , while also playing the whole «I’m just asking questions here, lets figure this out together» routine.
Even before that side-by-side I had no clue how people, whether you think it’s flares or not, could think that these five lights were attached to a solid, triangular structure. If you add the outline and a midline it becomes painfully obvious:
https://i.ibb.co/RhQ0y3q/29palms.jpg
Another patron Saint of the phenomena goes down in flames. The guy had been sitting on a video of flares for two years and couldn’t figure it out. What a joke. People will still buy his books and continue to bash Mick.
[Copying this excellent comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/13qmjhs/the_mojave_triangle_uap_a_closer_look/jlfsnrw/) from /u/golden_monkey_and_oj regarding flares:
Regarding the lights (flares) staying in the air for 10 minutes these comments from the main «Mojave Triangle» post yesterday are quite relevant and IMHO worth repeating:
/u/PCmndr
says:
Parachute flares https://towndock.net/files/LUU_Parachute_Factsheet.pdf
burn time 7 minutes + barely moves (4ftsec)
permalink: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/13phz6a/jeremy_dropped_a_banger_tonight_give_this_is_look/jlakorr/
/u/robaroo
then comments:
also, it’s preferable to deploy flares above a small mountain range due to the updraft that causes them to almost float and remain still in the sky. plus people underestimate the hang time on flares. they’re designed to float like hot air balloons. the heat from the flares give it more up time. these are flares deployed over a mountain range for the training exercise that was going on that same night. lol
permalink: https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/13phz6a/jeremy_dropped_a_banger_tonight_give_this_is_look/jlcl911/
[Jeremy’s Wiki](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Kenyon_Lockyer_Corbell) got screwed with over this.
Edit: The wiki is back to normal. Show’s over.
And Corbell is on social media right now saying «But I’ve been sent new videeeooooo!»
Who else routinely does this sort of work and presents it in a comprehensible form for all to understand? Yet many view West as some sort of villain 🤷
80 spectators (according to Weaponized) and that is the best photo evidence they have?
Yup, flares. Still waiting for Mick or someone from metabunk to tackle a case like the 1972 Tehran sighting. : )
I think Mick is generally hilarious and love dunking on him for his ridiculous claims, and I’m a full-on deep woo believer and believe just about everything that Corbell puts out and his explanation.
But, like, this really seems like flares. Credit where credit’s due, sometimes it actually is a bus full of hippie puppeteers.
Mick West overlaid 2 pictures from the 29 Palms incident and posted to Twitter the following:
«Two time-stamped original photos of the Twentynine Palms «UFO» over 19 seconds show a distinct descent from 2021:04:20 20:24:01 to 20:24:20.
Overlaid with much later image shows a MASSIVE descent, movement, and position change.
Flares.»
I’m confused about the power pole, though. It’s different in each picture. Was it taken at 2 different times? Or perspectives?
Would anyone have taken this obviously bs photo, seriously if some random guy had posted it on here ? . I have seen ufo photos that seem totally legit and credible get cut to pieces on this Reddit for no good reason
People seem to be giving this one credibility that it does not deserve, solely because of the names attached to it. Personally , I am very disappointed in George Knapp for choosing to be associated with this photo .
The location of the photo is all one needs to know . The idea that a ufo from another planet would travel to earth , and choose this one location to slow down and get filmed for 9 minutes is laughable.
This location is home to black contractors like , Lockheed skunkworks, that have hangers here . This is the place where they play war games between black project aircraft and our most advanced fighters. Also, The verified location where the f 117 was first developed , tested, and war gamed , which is the last black project aircraft the government has taken public , which was in 1990.
The odds that the ufo would come to this specific place, on all the places on the entire earth , and just hang out for nine minutes and get photoed and videoed is ridiculous. The power-ball lottery has better odds .
Whatever it is : flares ,aircraft , drone ,blimp , etc . It is 100% terrestrial. This kind of thing is strictly need to know, so there’s nothing unusual about active us military filming it and having no clue what it is .
For once and maybe the only time ever Mick West is right , it’s not a ufo.
Didnt a witness just post his story in here denying it could possibly be flares and that they stayed there for +25 minutes which is impossible? Why is that totally discounted?
Forgive my ignorance, but why are there flares in that area in the first place? Is there an airbase nearby? Or was this some kind of military exercise?
Man, the amount of Mick West dickriders baffles me. I’ll admit sometimes he’ll prove his point well, but he reaches a hell of a lot too. I mean some of his ideas are dumb af, like when he tried to give an explanation for the ariel school encounter (I will not call that a «debunk»). I think it’s hysterical when his fanboys pop up like this and think that they’re somehow better than the Cornell/Knapp lovers. Hop off of these mfers dick for a lil plz.
Another piece of low hanging fruit MW pounces upon. Though if my relevance also hinged on dunking on a child-sized hoop, I’d be commenting on everything Corbell pumped out as well.
These images aren’t taken from the same location.
It boggles my mind that I’m seeing people try to say that he Photoshopped pictures.
According to Reddit those dots are just flares or balloons. They know, so don’t argue with them. Also according to them the word UFO is another term for Alien. They rewrote the definition. Just ask them over on the UFO sub. Also military personnel on the ground are also wrong and never a good source. They have dumb opinions according to them over there as well. Remember we must ask a few people who have high volumes of followers on Twitter what the unknown objects are if we are ever to get confused between a ballon and flare. Remember, everything is a flare and or Chinese lantern. Also if it’s not glowing and it’s spotted in the daytime it’s without a question a balloon. Hope this solves everything for y’all.
This shit is getting wild, I actually have hope that we will get *some* answers in our lifetime.
I confess, I was defending Corbell here the last few days but this looks pretty convincing. As much as it pains me to say, I have to give this one to West.
Ok, so, that’s enough, no more our military sending flares up trying to make em look like UAP. Next time, send the flares up one at a time, not in V shape formation, that’s just trolling the good, honest folk here. Not right, cut it up!
Case like this, that get solved relativly easy, show that people like Corbell are not interested in the truth, they just want some buzz around them from time to time.
I was honestly a little shocked that this even considered to be not flares.
Yea, i’m convinced, flares. Looks like the Corb Photo is same angle, but possibly further down the road to the left, maybe a couple poles down. But the Mountains and the angles match up.
So the initial flares were straight, J got the photos of it when it descended over a long period of time.
So we learned that these soldiers don’t know what flares are capable of. Oof.
I think Corbell and Knapp got trolled hard 😂😂😂 These army guys are taking the piss. It could also be more sinister like an organised attempt to discredit but they are being taken for a ride for sure