Статья называется «Alles nur optische Täuschungen?» значение: Просто оптические иллюзии? Только что нашел эту статью пару недель назад, в которой говорилось о том, что у НАСА теперь есть команда, изучающая видео UAP. [https://www.tagesschau.de/wissen/forschung/nasa-ufos-untersuchung-100.html](https://www.tagesschau.de/wissen/forschung/nasa-ufos-untersuchung-100.html) Вот что говорится во второй половине: «После оценки таких данных, как высота самолета, снявшего видео, угол обзора камеры, пройденное расстояние и скорость самолета, стало очевидно, что таинственный объект не соответствует названию «Go Fast». Подводя итог, он летел примерно на полпути между океаном и самолетом, сказал он. «Поэтому поверхность воды начинается только на несколько километров ниже объекта. «Таким образом, эта сфера ни в коем случае не мчится близко над водой, как это видно на видео. Используя данные полета самолета, исследователи смогли подсчитать, что за 22-секундную запись объект переместился всего на 390 метров. видимое движение объекта можно объяснить скоростью самолета наблюдения, который летел со скоростью почти 700 километров в час.**Таким образом** **сама сфера имела скорость всего около 60 километров в час.** И это соответствует в значительной степени соответствует скорости ветра на высоте четырех километров. Так что при такой скорости **это вполне может быть обычный воздушный шар**. Ученые планируют рассмотреть другие подобные примеры к концу июля, а затем представить отчет.» Извините, если это обсуждалось раньше. Но что вы думаете об этом?
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It’s been talked about several times over the last few years and a similar conclusion reached by multiple sources using the information provided in the video.
https://www.youtube.com/live/bQo08JRY0iM?feature=share&t=9957
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/go-fast-footage-from-tom-delonges-to-the-stars-academy-bird-balloon.9569/
https://www.metabunk.org/sitrec/?sit=gofast
The point that all these make is that the object is not necessarily going fast.
The NASA study group actually «debunked» the GoFast video in the recent public hearing. It was actually traveling at the average wind speed.
If you take the numbers on the display screen and do the math the object is not going fast.
The only debunk I saw of this is Chris lehto did a video where he says the range number (distance to the object) is not correct on the display.
It’s the same old if you don’t know how far away the object is then you can’t tell how fast it is going. The gimbal video is the same thing. Depending on how far away the object is either flying away in a straight line or making physics defying maneuvers.
The only way I think they confirm the objects speed and path is if they had some additional data, like the radar data, that confirms the objects distance. This data must exist somewhere and we always here about ‘multiple sensor UAP observations’ but none of it is available publicly unfortunately.
The article is correct
Maybe the pilots were wrong, maybe they had more data from other sensors that indicated it was something anomalous. It may be that they had radar data that showed it was not a balloon which is why they filmed it. But who cares? Of the three videos it was always the least compelling. It only takes one NHI craft to make this a world changing situation. If Grusch is right they have 12. We should know soon enough.
Go fast was probably a bird or a balloon. You can determine this as the distance from the object is given in the video data, and hence the apparent fast motion of it is just parallax.
None of the videos that have been declassified are all that interesting. Most of them are trivial to debunk and don’t require anything more than high school level physics. Go fast is just parallax, gimble is just lens flare and the camera gimble rotating, the flying pyramids one is just an out of focus plane next to some out of focus stars, with the pyramid shape caused by the aperture of the lens.
That said, the inside people have all said that the videos aren’t impressive and misrepresent the actual UAP data they have, and they have all been telling a consistent story that matches with Grusch’s, so I do think this stuff is likely true, it’s just we haven’t gotten to see any of the really juicy stuff since it’s classified.
From what I read the military has far more sensor data that they won’t share due to classification. It does not seem that the guy quoted in the article has access to the full data set.
The reason Go Fast is anomalous isn’t anything to do with its speed. [It was almost certainly filmed the same day as GIMBAL, 21 Jan 2015,](https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/y7rjxk/the_fa18f_super_hornet_ripper_11s_mission_card/) and was part of the same series of events. *That is what is anomalous about it.* It remains unidentified, despite the data captured by various sensors.
Also, again and again this red herring that Go Fast does not show a fast moving object and is therefore debunked is put forward so debunkers can show off their trigonometry skills. We got [another trigonometry lesson](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOFv7zF9JAA&t=2h44m29s) from NASA that day. There was an ABC America report back in November 2022 where they said [*»In the «Go Fast» video Navy pilots are heard exclaiming how fast an object is moving above the water.»*](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ufo-report-week-incidents-unexplained/story?id=92303931) Well maybe they should have listened to [the video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxVRg7LLaQA&t=80s) *because there is nowhere in the video where the pilots say anything about the speed of the object at all.* The only thing they say that is unusual about it is that they *twice* indicate they can not identify it — *»What the F— is that thing?», «Wow! What is that, man?»*. I am pretty sure fighter pilots lean about parallax early in their training — they are travelling at speeds in excess of 1,000 kmh, so I figure they know a lot more about it than most of us. It is a shame every debunker seems to believe not one fighter pilot knows anything about parallax, or trigonometry for that matter, or how to read the data they are receiving from systems in their fighter jets.
GO FAST was filmed as part of a series of events that began back in 2014, and Ryan Graves has spoken several times about it. Graves said that back in 2014, [after a radar upgrade to his fighter jet](https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxLfzIqoNtEZHi1l8vXTvTx8NxyIsQaBY8), pilots started seeing these things [*»every day, for at least a couple of years»*](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlTT-0jn0YQ&t=141s). Kevin Day, Air Intercept Control Supervisor for the Princeton and for the Nimitz Strike Group during [the 2004 Nimitz encounter](https://www.explorescu.org/post/2004-uss-nimitz-strike-navy-group-incident-report) has also said that [*»the technology upgrade our ship had received, I think it gave us the ability to finally, suddenly see these things.»*] (https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxgRMsRxZotUUBnbsesq2uhXBMb12Amqjp). So, a technological change in sensors has now allowed the capture of data about these things in a way that wasn’t possible in the past.
Those events back in 2014 and after led to the development of a reporting system known as the [Range Fouler Reports.](https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/range-fouler-debrief-forms-and-reports/) Range Fouler Reports are filed when a mission is cancelled due to interference by a UAP. These are the basis of the reports AARO is investigating, and these have led to the current interest by Congress into what is happening with UFOs. Pilots are reporting events similar to the GIMBAL & GO FAST numerous times in the Range Fouler Reports —
>[*»multiple UAPs together» — «Documentation indicates that 5 UAP» — «observed 3X possible unidentified» — «Aircrew observed Multiple UAPs» — «It is possible there were many more than four UAPs.» — «I couldn’t figure out what it was» — «did not change position like an aircraft would» — «Initial object was surpassed by another object» — «It made a few abrupt directional changes» — «They made three or four passes» — «ONE RANGE FOULER WAS CIRCLING AROUND ANOTHER» — «Flew nose-on» — «It very nearly collided with our aircraft.» — «a relatively close pass with us» — «Due to safety considerations with object in the airspace, pilot called» — «This occurred almost daily» — «UFO»*](https://old.reddit.com/r/HighStrangeness/comments/10vo6it/looking_for_a_funinteresting_podcast_topic/j7jx91a/)
Ryan Graves also recently interviewed a pilot who described one of these encounters, and said his mission was cancelled due to interference by UFOs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJtQc7DJFf0
Graves has also said there are several more minutes of the GIMBAL film
>Where are the remaining four minutes of the GIMBAL video? Has Congress seen it? If not, why not?
https://twitter.com/uncertainvector/status/1537168538670141442
Also, Graves has described the video in detail several times, clearly indicating there were other objects filmed with GIMBAL that day —
https://twitter.com/uncertainvector/status/1396844938869026817
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZyNMqcpFm8&list=PLT-MDg5f4v2Cx_IzkEqoIbBQSSWUuXDw4&t=4m49s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhUwuaxiiQU&t=1213s
So, to recap —
— The Pentagon still label GO FAST as anomalous.
— The only people we know of with first hand knowledge of the GO FAST events say it remains anomalous, and we know objects like GO FAST were seen with GIMBAL.
— We have testimony several times that anomalous things just like the GO FAST object are being encountered by military pilots because of a technological advancement available to the military, and we can read where the pilots express that they can not explain these things.
Proving how fast it goes is great, and proves trigonometry skills, but it isn’t debunking.
Until it’s determined what the object is, nothing is debunked. They figured out what the speed and altitude of the object are.
If you remember, Ryan Graves has said that they have seen these things sitting still (despite wind) all the way up to going Mach 2.
The objects they saw don’t constantly fly at insane speeds.
Does that mean that this object is an alien craft? No. Could it be a balloon? Yes. Did they determine it definitely is a balloon? No. So nothing has actually been debunked and unfortunately not many things in this topic can be debunked or proven.
I actually think the most fascinating part of the video is the fact that the object is colder than the water behind it. I’d like to know the temperature a balloon would be at when floating over the ocean.
what a shit show. nothing of significance or importance, just a condescending rant by a public service broadcast
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From what I read the military has far more sensor data that they won’t share due to classification. It does not seem that the guy quoted in the article has access to the full data set.
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The article is more about the whole UAP thing. In a very short format. It talks about that about 45.000 flights and around 200 ballons take off in the USA so there is room for some misjudgment.
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They take this example because it looks even for me more common. Seems like a ballon at 60km/h (37mph) in about 4km(13.000ft) height. For me it also looks like more like a gull in diving motion. But the whole UAP/UFO theme is very intresting, even if there is less to none observation in my country.
There isn’t much definitive evidence to suggest this video is wildly anomalous. Maybe there was more off camera that would really raise eyebrows. The other two videos released around the same time, gimball and tic tac, are far more compelling.
Tic tac, gimbal, and all the eyewitness accounts from the nimitz and the probably unrelated roosevelt are the most compelling stuff I’ve seen and are the entire reason why I spend so much time watching this subreddit and other sources of info on this. I was in the camp of «Life probably exists out there but I have no reason to believe it’s here» before these.
Go fast might be a dudd but it really doesn’t effect the credibility of these other sources. They stand on their own.