Мегапоток MH370 — Релевантные сообщения о MH370

People here are so spoiled and forgot how 90 percent of this sub used to be people posting images of various items in the sky turning out to be balloons or starlink.

If nothing else, there has been some great work done showing; the collective power of OSINT, the breadth and depth of knowledge in this sub and a largely respectful exchange of views. I have absolutely no idea about the veracity of the vids but there has been some great discussion that I’ve enjoyed.

I posted some difference analysis in the original satellite video which is actually stereoscopic. https://reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15oqgav/airliner_satellite_video_view_of_the_area/jvttmf1

TLDR — If it’s fake, it’s another length the creator went to in order to make this. The depth is done pretty well. It’s also another way to rule it a fake if it turns out the satellites do not take stereoscopic video.

hey folks, I was requested to repost this here.

Hey everyone. I was brought into this by a buddy of mine because I am both an engineer(biomedical but no one’s perfect) and he respects me for my realist observation about strange stuff.

Something that I think was missed about the rotation of the spheres is that the ‘dark contrails’ of the spheres -lead- the spheres by what appears to be dozens of feet, effectively showing us where the spheres will go (suggesting something is ahead of the spheres opening a path for it’s traversal). I Strongly suggest watching the video carefully and even stopping at 0.59 to take a look, You can clearly see the ‘contrail’ forming -ahead- of the sphere in it’s path (along with the one on the further right)

In thermal imaging, obviously, darker colors equate to colder temperatures. This is important for later, but you can clearly see that something is causing the air to cool rapidly in the upcoming path of the objects.

There are a few ways to cool air, but one of the best ways to do it is expand the possible space that the air can travel. Moving the air particles apart from one another reduces their ability to collide, and having the same amount of energy in a larger volume of space will have an overall cooling effect. I don’t know if I am explaining this properly, but I really hope you get what I am talking about here.

Watching these things move made me wonder «What could cause this sort of movement AND cause cooling in this manner» and the first thing that came to mind was the Alcubierre drive, the speculative ‘warp drive’ that warps space in front and behind of an object, though it appears this works somehow in reverse. Please follow my inane ramblings for a little while longer.

We see the trail ahead of the object cool as if expanding upon some sort of wedge in the exact direction of the motion of the sphere. This could be explained by the expanding of space, which would rarify the atmosphere in the path of the object. I don’t know what the temp scale is of the video, but the pathway is black, implying a dramatic chilling of the air in this pathway. it’s extent beyond the movement of the sphere is also telling, as it means that the warmth of the atmosphere is -not- heating the air immediately (suggesting either that it is -very- cold or something is preventing it along the path of the sphere). Such heat-cold cycles should be very visible as cold air hits warmer air (condensation of some variety) but we see no such thing in the satellite footage.

If there was such a warping of space, it is required that there be a zone of heat where space is being condensed, and it is possible that we do, namely in the unusual heat zones of the spheres themselves, where it is possible that what little rarified atmosphere is being condensed to significant temperatures within that zone, enough to heat the spheres. Someone would have to take the time to compare the heat zones to the motion of travel to verify this. I also notice that the zones of heat shift RAPIDLY, rotating along the axis of the sphere. This says to me that the source of the heat may be independent of the sphere itself, and the sphere is merely absorbing heat from it.

Don’t forget that the path of light can be affected by the warping of space itself, if there is a powerful heat source that is in a zone of intense contraction of space, we may not be able to see the light as it is being scattered or warped in it’s path by the zone. We may only see a tiny residue of it that forms on something right next to it, so close that the light cannot be effectively scattered from it (also, if air is rarified, there may be little to condense and heat, making less IR radiation for a camera to pick up, but some still escapes as seen on the spheres).

Such a drive could absolutely maneuver in the manner shown in the video, as it is not reliant on thrust to adjust any course, just the expansion and contraction of space in a specific direction. A sensitive and effective enough control system could have them fly in just such a manner with no issues. One thing that we think is the case is that such drives can only maintain the speed that their drives have when turned on. I am really curious if anyone has measured the velocity of the objects from start to finish and see if they maintain a consistent energy in their path.

I did some reading into the Alcubierre drive, the wikipedia is pretty decent reading. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive

This is perfect. I think we should compile some comprehensive reports covering all these topics, i.e. get on collaborative docs together. This is my list I just wrote as a jumping off point for topics to cover in the report:

EDIT: I’m going to start making a word doc elaborating on each of these points soon I think. My plan is to then learn how to use LaTeX to make a fancy looking PDF. I will also at first in the draft link to reddit posts for things that are already explained, and then I plan to ask permission to attach people’s reddit posts as PDF’s in the latex document or to quote them. I also plan for each section to specifically solicit feedback from professionals in the relevent field, like they do for some news articles. Like here is what 4 imaging specialists think about the colours in the FLIR film type thing. I think a proper looking report is a lot more convincing than a reddit post lol

EDIT2: I’ve started to get this going [link](https://i.imgur.com/azNdpwO.png). Can we get some coordinated activity here?

EDIT3: Lets ask professionals! maybe r/computerforensics

EDIT4: I’m starting a group to talk with less censorship (dm me)

— Chinese Satellite UFO images
— WISPR analysis by Richard Godfrey. Link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/k4fn8eec4z9np0z/GDTAAA%20WSPRnet%20MH370%20Analysis%20Flight%20Path%20Report.pdf?dl=0
— INMARSAT (A comment below sent me raw INMARSAT data in an excel file, that comment was deleted. I will upload the data later, [link](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mQGuFVsAj-arGihIWCyJ9RQDxa8VlBLw/edit?usp=sharing&ouid=113638298599667386531&rtpof=true&sd=true))
— Coordinates https://imgur.com/a/MPaaE0J
— New grey IR video
— Framerates on all 3 / 4 videos (do the framerates match NRO displays, and are there editing artifacts)
— Thermal imaging realism (colour and grey)
— Phone calls from passengers?
— Psychics? https://psychicfocus.blogspot.com/2014/03/malaysia-airline-mh370.html
https://medium.com/accessible-foia/analysis-assesment-gateway-process-army-cia-foia-1983-human-consciousness-d7fa332ef404
(another link here as well somewhere)
— stitched together steady background edit / weather (weather match NASA views?) https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15oqgav/airliner_satellite_video_view_of_the_area/
— details in image e.g. pitot tube, shape of predator drone
— Concordance between the 3 or 4 perspectives (are things moving the same or are they moving differently)
— Black hole appearance on optical and IR (does it match real black hole images/expectations)
— Cold leading edges of UFOs
— Witness accounts of planes or UFO’s flying near Vietnam/ Indonesia (I heard someone on reddit say there were lots).
— Cloud thread linked below
— indirect hints from UFO people
— Obama / U.S govt. response to crisis.
— declassified SENTINTEL document which mentioned «MK370» and quick program spin up time to watch the MK370 crisis.
— Malaysian airforce radar pings «unidentified blob»
— Suspicious forum activity
— Historical encounters of a similar nature
— Hydrophone data (earthquake or tsunami type recordings?!?)

Amateur astronomers and satellite trackers investigated the possibilty of US SIGINT satellites observing MH370 shortly after it happened in 2014.

The results are quite thorough and impressive. There is a lot of good information here for anyone interested on what the US government can actually see.

https://sattrackcam.blogspot.com/search?q=usa+184

This website also shows the mission patches for NROL-22, one of which depicts a snake using infrared vision from BOTH eyes to view the globe. This is the closest we will ever get to confirming the satellite has stereoscopic 3d vision.

here is a video of a Russian Fighter pilot who had an encounter where the UAP took full controll over his plane. A orb much as in the video was circeling around his plane while 0 radio could be made and the plane was under someone else’s control.
Looks almost as in the video.

https://youtu.be/2pUQCprCoSA

credits to Remsey of ufoB for sending this info.
we are searching for more same cases that look what was seen on the video.

I can definitely understand why some may be tired of seeing this topic but for myself & many others this has just been a lot of fun. Doesn’t even matter if the videos are real or fake anymore. People here have really been putting out such engaging posts and ideas.

Even the «subplot» of individuals at Eglin Base in FL downvoting & disparaging the topic is wildly interesting.

I think the mods took down my post? How am I supposed to share this?

https://reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/XEb3C0IJ4Y

I’m the author of the [cloud illumination](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15ld2kp/airliner_video_shows_very_accurate_cloud/), [complex depth](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15qrg1e/airliner_video_shows_complex_treatment_of_depth/), and [cursor drift](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15rbuzf/airliner_video_shows_matched_noise_text_jumps_and/) threads.

**I’d like to request to** u/UFOs-ModTeam **that the cursor drift thread be undeleted, both because it contains videos that can’t easily be migrated to this thread—and because other posts and forums like Metabunk are linking to it with no way for me to create a redirect.**

I’m going to take a break from this topic, but I wanted to propose some next directions for research.

First, start submitting FOIAs. Obviously it won’t work to just submit a FOIA asking for footage from NROL-22 on March 8, 2014. But it may be possible to request information about purchases: who they were paying for their remote desktop software in 2014, what kind of 3D viewing hardware they purchased, etc.

Second, try to find the source of the video. RegicideAnon is missing, but there are at least three other videos posted in August that are not copies of RegicideAnon, and some of those users are still active ([Area-Alienware](https://vimeo.com/104295906), [Leo Milan](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-09MUDsxxs), [Jose Matos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS9uL3Omg7o)). Try to contact them and compile interviews that might help narrow down the origin of the video.

Third, regarding the stereo video, it’s worth looking into how a depth image might be reconstructed from a single satellite perspective. [In-track stereo](https://www.pgc.umn.edu/guides/stereo-derived-elevation-models/introduction-to-stereoscopic-imagery/)? [Interferometry](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interferometric_synthetic-aperture_radar)? Is it common to use these for 3D reconstruction, and is it possible in this case? Do they have the resolution to resolve planes? What software and hardware is used for displaying these stereo pairs? What kind of cursor does that software use?

Fourth, on the forensics side, come up with a clear theory and test it. I’m going to lay out a theory based on eyeballing the video. Let’s say the original resolution of the satellite viewing screen is 2560×1440. Then someone used remote viewing software to control the system. They are watching a noisy satellite video at 6fps. The telemetry text is yellow Courier, 24px tall, with a black shadow 1px below and 1px to the right. Then a 90% crop of the screen, like 2304×1296, was captured by Citrix and downsampled to 1280×720. The cursor motion was pixel-accurate on the original screen and drifting at 4px per second due to some kind of input controller bug or network glitch, but Citrix downsampled the coordinates to match a 1280×720 window, and rendered a high-resolution subpixel-accurate cursor server-side on top of the video at 12x18px. Finally, the video was compressed once for storage by Citrix. Then it was downloaded and uploaded to YouTube and Vimeo where it went through an additional compression step (though it was a different algorithm in 2014).

Try this out, do it all up very carefully with some graphics programming or video editing/VFX software. If it looks the same, we can only say that the video might be real, because there is a way to get this kind of subpixel-smooth cursor animation from the above screen recording process. If it doesn’t look the same, we can say that the above pipeline is not how the video was created. There are lots of clues in the video, offering different ways to approach this. For example, someone could try to get an old version of Citrix running and configure it to capture a screen recording. Or if you’re more of a hacker, torrent an old version of Citrix and use a resource editor/explorer to unpack the .exe and .dll files to find the cursor icon. There may also be information out there about the exact video codec that Citrix uses, and it might explain why the cursor looks completely black in some sections of the video and black-outlined-gray in others. Or maybe reading more about screen recording with Citrix will explain the details of the above pipeline more clearly.

Good luck 💙 🤗

You can add this thread to the links if you want:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/10b0sly/interesting_video_i_found_on_twitter_regarding/

I posted this clip 7 months ago in January yet it had almost 0 traction and many people were calling me despicable in the comments for even suggesting it could be MH370. It sat around 0 upvotes for a long time.

Why the renewed interest now?

At the time of posting this comment, the thread has 134 comments (47 of them being new).

Also the source tweet I linked in my submission statement was deleted by the author (not sure when it was deleted).

THATS WHAT IT FUCKING IS! POLARIZED GLASSES! The two videos are for viewing with polarized glasses! One side is in horizontal and the other side is in vertical polarization.

https://i.imgur.com/TqVwGgI.png

The two frames are for a polarized screen! Just like the movies!

Ok so apparently there are two new subreddits dedicated to analysing the videos. Maybe we should keep an eye on them and if there’s anything of interest we could use the megathread to keep tabs on everything.

r/MH370Crisis
and
r/AirlinerAbduction2014

Regarding the first one, I highly recommend reading [this thread about why we should use the vimeo video instead of RegicideAnon’s.](https://www.reddit.com/r/MH370Crisis/comments/15s34et/using_regicideanons_upload_for_analysis_is_wrong/)

Found a video in wayback machine that is uploaded on 5/17/14 (2 days before the Satellite video) and it says that 3 UFOs crashed in china. We can see that 3 objects orbiting around the plane and dissappearing after, is there any common points on theese?

[Link to the video](http://web.archive.org/web/20140531130928/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsI_4hjrEro)

As much as I’d like to believe and also be a skeptic. I have noticed a lot of people mention how «this is a lot of work for a simple hoax»

Everything is a lot of work. Especially if you want to create a good hoax. Remember, we have people go in the middle of the night to draw circles on crops. People will spend many hours to create a fake.

We had in Spain a similar case in a comercial flight in 1979 from Palma de Mallorca which had to do a emergency landing in Valencia because a series of lights that follow the plain and match its speed. It’s called the Manises UFO incident, and we don’t have an explanation of what happened that day yet

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manises_UFO_incident

>Former Marine F/A-18 pilot Mark Hulsey describes encounter with multiple orb UAPs flying in a circular pattern above his canopy by u/HotFluffyDiarrhea

This is my favorite part of this post, lol.

Not that you have to add this to the links, but I posted some Malaysian street art from 2014/15 that is a bit disturbing. I guess no one was interested. haha https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15o4ait/malaysian_street_art_depicting_mh370_circa_2015/

Mega threads blow. Everything gets buried. Stop messing around it was fine how it was.

what happened and why was the megathread removed