Лесли Кин рассказывает об крушения НЛО на The Hill TV: «Это не обязательно означает, что какие-то инопланетяне прилетели сюда и разбились… Я думаю, что фактическое происхождение этого может быть намного сложнее».
Leslie Kean talks UFO crash retrievals on The Hill TV.
“It doesn’t necessarily mean that there’s some extraterrestrial aliens that have come here and crashed…I think the actual origin of it could be much more complicated than that.”#ufotwitter #uaptwitter pic.twitter.com/JbS2ak4QpI
— ᴋʟᴀᵾs (@tinyklaus) June 10, 2023
Everyone who has studied this seriously (Vallée, Keel, et al) has concluded that The Phenomenon is far stranger than most people think, that it doesn’t have a straightforward nuts-and-bolts explanation and that it’s most likely not extraterrestrial.
Grusch’s testimony — and that of the other whistleblowers — is *very* carefully worded. They’re not spaceships — they’re craft. They’re not aliens — they’re non-human intelligences.
I think over the next few days more and more people are going to be considering the possibility that we share our planet with other beings whose origin we can barely comprehend.
How do we explain the Betty and Barney Hill abduction, then? Were the beings just feeding Bettie disinformation about a yet unrevealed star system as their origin? Countless abduction stories reference beings from other planets, by the beings’ own admissions. Are we just dismissing decades of witness testimony because interdimentional beings or time traveling future humans is easier for our brains to process?
(https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barney_and_Betty_Hill_incident)
Extra dimensional intelligence seems to be where we are leaning
When he said conscious psychic entity with technology, did he mean something spiritual and technological?
Submission Statement:
[Leslie Kean](https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/authors/114166/leslie-kean/), one of the authors of the [groundbreaking Debrief story about whistleblower David Grusch](https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/), was quoted on The Hill TV saying the bodies question might be more complicated than just ET:
“It doesn’t necessarily mean that there’s some extraterrestrial aliens that have come here and crashed…I think the actual origin of it could be much more complicated than that.”
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Another interesting anecdote:
Kean mentions how, she heard from a source off the record that (paraphrased), «The cost of security for the program (crash retrieval & reverse engineering), outweighs the actual money spent on the program itself. The security is this **huge** element of it.»
This is interesting because that «source», she mentions, is almost certainly [Dr. Eric W. Davis](https://www.baylor.edu/casper/doc.php/285520.pdf).
How do I come to that conclusion?
Here is a transcript I made of an [interview Dr. Davis had in 2019 with OpenMindTV](https://youtu.be/IeyBTChcTe4):
Transcript of Dr. Eric W Davis on Crash Retrievals and Special Access Programs:
«Yeah, we were working as subcontractors to Bigelow Aerospace’s Advanced Based Studies who had the contract to the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA).
So, uh yeah, there have been crashes, uh, the superpowers on the Earth have had their share of crashes and they have recovered the vehicles from their crashes so, uh, that’s why shockingly I agree that even though these things behave like a conscious psychic entity, they do have a advanced technology, they have hardware and uh there’s a craft and there’s occupants or UFO-nauts and he (Jacque Vallee) calls them that, shockingly calls them these euphemisms, so there’s uh UFO-nauts running these craft.
Uh, the point is that, uh, that the way these things are operating they go way outside the envelope of our engineering and physics technologies and uh I can guarantee you that no laws of physics are broken whatsoever, it is just that it’s either the existing ones that we have but we haven’t, uh, extrapolated it further enough or expanded it enough into realms or say areas of phase space where we could discover new solutions to these existing physical laws which would give us advanced propulsion and power that would produce this type of technology once you have an engineering and manufacturing technology to create these things so that’s where we’re at and these things don’t look like anything that we can manufacture on Earth.
So, we don’t have the manufacturing or industrial technology for it or the likes, for example. That’s what the 38 papers that the DIA wanted in their taskforce with their bigger Aerospace Advanced Space Studies contract was to take the physics and engineering of 2009 and 2010 and have it extrapolated to 2050.
Are we going to be able to have the physics and engineering and the technology industrial base that’ll produce a vehicle that’ll match the Tic-Tacs and on the flip side of that, boy, that would be wonderful if we could get there because commercially it would revolutionize transportation and energy on the Earth and the interesting thing is today there’s a big move away from Special Access Programs.
They’re extremely costly to maintain. Extremely Costly. Let me tell you this, uh, the cost to maintain information personnel and physical security for a special access program can be tens of times larger than the cost of the program itself.
The purpose of a black program with the special access program security rep is you’ve got to limit the information and exposure to the information to as few people as possible in order to produce the maximum security protection against espionage by the enemy.»
Apply logic here. When a civilisation dies, what remains is the technology — AI, drones, machines that can sustain and replicate themselves. Being machines they aren’t restricted by time and as such can travel vast distances over thousands, millions of years. Maybe what we’re being visited by is this technology — A millennia-old echo of its creators.

That’s cause they’ve always been here and we do not share this planet as exclusively as we think we do.
A tree is non human
Makes me laugh how Aliens are so far advanced than us and have mastered interstellar travel but as soon as they get to earth they turn into a bunch of fuck ups and immediately crash and get captured.
…faaip de oiad…
Calm down fellas! There is plenty of money for everyone! 🤑🤑🤑
More complicated?
I think the answers are so multi-layered advanced that our minds won’t have the discernment to comprehend the phenomena. Just like an ant doesn’t understand what a TV is.
What does that mean ? Time travel ?
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“What we’re thinking of as […] aliens, Art, they’re […] extradimensional beings that an earlier precursor of the […] space program made contact with […] They have infiltrated a lot of […] aspects of […] the military establishment, particularly the Area 51. “
Pretty soon there will be an alien giving the evening news and someone will still be saying, it doesn’t mean there’s actually aliens people
Don’t get why we don’t just admit it and get on with the introductions. If they were hostile we would be long vaporized. Just sayin
So basically what they are saying they know the origin of the individuals who crashed the ships or gave them ships. So to prevent us from going ape ass on them they are going to kiddy release this information. Knowing full well that most of this is against the laws of our land the things that have been done to keep this information suppressed. Might as well just open Pandora’s box and get it over with. This sipping out information is not doing them any good. I have a strong feeling that everyone in government already knows what’s going on with this. The pieces are coming together with all of that horsing around they did with Hillary’s emails. That was about more than her sending food recipes to friends. She was reaching out to colleges trying to get some technical support on the tech we have. We need to fire all of our Congress people and the military command along with everyone else who knew about this stuff. They killed innocent Americans over this crap. When you are willing to kill your own people over tech something is very very wrong with you.
Alternatively, UFOs are a psyop to spook the Russians.