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Помнить? Джефф Шогол, старший репортер Пентагона, спросил Джона Ф. Кирби из Совета национальной безопасности США, есть ли у Министерства обороны инопланетные тела и аппараты. Он начал заикаться и отказывался давать простой ответ
Remember? Jeff Schogol, senior Pentagon reporter asked the US National Security Council’s John F Kirby if DoD had alien bodies and crafts. He started stuttering and refused to give a simple answer
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Yeah we know: “- It’s complicated” lol
Journalist: «Wait, so is the U.S. government in possession of these things or not?»
Kirby: «The United States government is an institution for the people, by the people.»
Journalist: «Are you just stalling?»
Kirby: «… with liberty and justice for all.»
I mean, a hard ‘no’ would be easy to give out here…. at the very least, there’s some swaggering or bluffing here. Something is a miss.
Does the DoD have flying but monkey unicorns?
No, would be the expected answer.
He couldn’t even look up and make eye contact with the reporters🛸 he knows he’s not good at lying 😝 he looks up at the end and u can see his relief like peace out bitches I’m done
It’s amazing the good in people. This guy could simply lie, toe the company line, but it’s actually really hard for people to lie.
Happy birthday. Where the aliens, baby?? Definitely layers to this cake.
A simple, “No, we do not” would have been more convincing.
Wow. I didn’t expect to see him so fazed. He didn’t deny or even make light of the question.
He also deferred to the report. ~~The one that was delayed for almost half a year for no apparent reason.~~ Was its contents the subject of intense infighting?
Additionally I’ll give proper info:
When: June 4, 2021
Full transcript: https://www.defense.gov/News/Transcripts/Transcript/Article/2647056/pentagon-press-secretary-john-f-kirby-holds-a-press-briefing/
Exact words:
> I was talking to a gentleman about the UAP report, and **he contends the Pentagon has alien bodies and crafts.** So I just wanted to run this past you. Does DOD have these things? And if so, where?
>
> MR. KIRBY: The UAP Task Force is really designed to take a look at these unexplained aerial phenomena, try to help us get a better understanding of them. Again, I’m not going to get ahead of the report that DNI will submit that we are helping obviously, and providing input to. And **I’ll just leave it at that, Jeff. Yeah.**
then later in the same briefing:
> Can you specifically address the reporting that’s come out about this UAP report, the reporting that these UAPs – they don’t appear to be alien spacecraft, that there’s not enough information to actually address what exactly they are and that they’re not a U.S. secret black program?
>
> MR. KIRBY: Yeah, look, I’ve seen the press reporting on this, Luis, but I’m not going to comment one way or the other about the reporting or certainly about the work of the task force and the coming report by the Director of National Intelligence. I won’t get ahead of that process.
>
> Q: So **can you rule out specifically that these are not alien spacecraft?**
>
> MR. KIRBY: I think I’ve answered your question. I’m not going to get ahead of a report that hasn’t been filed to Congress and I’m certainly not going to speak about intelligence issues here from the podium. I’ve, again, seen the press reporting but **I’m not going to be able to comment** beyond that.
Edit: I expanded my post with direct quotes and corrected misinformation, and the upvote rate plummeted. Fucking reddit.
Submission Statement:
In 2021 Jeff Schogol, senior Pentagon reporter for Task & Purpose showed some guts and asked the US National Security Council’s John F Kirby if DoD had the alien bodies and crafts
He started stuttering and refused to give a no or a simple answer answer
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They never give easy answers, in any topic.
Lmao. Yeah that comes off super shady.
As nuts as it seems, I’m leaning toward the USG having bodies, at this point. The fact that nobody will deny it point-blank is itself a data point.
Could be wrong, maybe it’s disinfo, but… I’m just not reading the room that way.
I like how his body twitches when he heard «Alien bodies and crafts». It’s like his heart sunk. All he had to say was no.
And as a second opinion towards every other comment here:
To me it looks like he’s trying not to laugh, and then just answer that «it’s not my job to know this so I can’t answer that» — but in a nice, beaucratic way.
It wouldn’t be the first time a politician or government person did not give a straight answer to a simple question. It happens all the time in pretty much any country.
Just from the top of my head: When a Rogue mental patient went about in Kongsberg in Norway killing people in the streets with a bow and arrow and a knife, the police refused to answer how many people were dead because — low and behold — they didn’t know and therefor couldnt say «yes, people have died». They need to have it confirmed by a doctor, the person need to be pronounced dead. Then they can say that «yes, there are dead people».
The answer they gave was for a good few hours: «We can’t confirm if there are any mortalities related to the incident».
Honestly folks I think you’re clouding your judgement of what you want to see/hear versus what you actually see/hear. As a skeptic that anyone has any evidence of actual Extraterrestrial existence, all I see here is someone finding the topic a bit comical but wanting to give a professional and impromptu answer.
I’m glad someone dug this up. I wonder if we’ll see a briefing like this again where this question is asked?
This means nothing. Most press conference answers have ‘ums’ and stutters peppered through them because people are answering live and forming thoughts as they speak. Also he might just think the whole topic is ridiculous and is trying to stay professional. We don’t have to go nuts reading too much into _everything_.
There’s no way this guy knows lol
Personal take is it looked like he was trying his best to hold back laughing at this guy
He is just trying not to laugh his ass off. Even if they had bodies, do you think that the damn speaker would be in the know?
Current average IQ of this sub: 80. And going down fast.
Two ways to interpret it. Lying or trying not to laugh his ass off.
The more he/they refer to: “the task force is designed to…” “AARO reports…” etc instead of the speaking for the Pentagon as a whole makes me think he is making a concerted effort to tell the truth in a way that omits what he truly knows and pin responsibility to an office that doesn’t have the authority to investigate that truth. I have to say, should that be true and he is deflecting here, I do respect him more for not lying outright.
Looked like he was trying not to laugh.
“I’ll just leave it at that”. Ok. You could have said “No” but you didn’t.
«We are going to create an office to investigate UAPS (AARO) after having made sure that it has not enough clearance to find them.» So Kirpatrick was able to say the sentence he wanted to say («AARO has found no credible evidence thus far of extraterrestrial activity, off-world technology or objects that defy the known laws of physics»), and not the one he couldn’t actually say because it’s false («No branch or department of the entire United States government or the military has found ever credible evidence thus far of extraterrestrial activity, off-world technology or objects that defy the known laws of physics). The key is in the «careful wording «, and in making sure that AARO will never be powerful enough to dive into the depths of the history of the last century.
Kept his head down the whole time, no eye contact.
Kept his eyes downcast and that’s usually an indication of avoidance….which means he doesn’t want to lie.
This man is 100% being extremely cautious with the words he chooses (like way more than usual when government employees talk AROUND things that are qualified).
Absolutely no eye contact
Uhh, uhh, Jeff, uhhhhhhh, I’ll leave it at that
Kirby is an excellent liar, when he’s given the questions prior to the press conference and has had time to rehearse his approved scripted answers. I’m as surprised as Kirby obviously was that this question got through the screeners.
To be fair, this guy probably doesn’t know
He can’t even look the reporter in the eyes. I’m not a body language expert, but that’s fishy.
That sounds an awful lot like a yes to me. That should’ve been a very easy no.
Sooner or later we need evidence. Thats very important so we dont get too open minded about this UFO subject
I’d love to know what is and isn’t rearl.
Call me a skeptic on this whole UFO/UAP stuff, but that certainly sounded like a yes.
We need more people asking these questions.
nice clip… this is pretty telling imo
He’s holding back derisive laughter.
You can literally see him start to laugh: he didn’t answer the question because it’s preposterous (at least I’m his eyes at that moment). If the US government were to have those things, do you think their press guy would know about it? Of course not!
Him not answering is not a conspiracy point people!
Mick West what do you make of this answer… Or lack off. Surely no matter how much of a skeptic you are, there’s no way this is not a «yes».
Huge props to Jeff Schogol for asking this direct question. Does anyone know what happened to him after this?
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That’s just his normal reaction. Compare with this rather interesting episode:
https://youtu.be/JSWvVdhguZw
This post is a great example of the mental leaps UFO super fans will go to in order to believe.