Что такое проект ЗОДИАК?

I made a post a little bit ago about ZODIAC and got booty snatched in the comments.

I think there is something to it.
Lue acknowledges he’s heard about it but won’t comment on it.

The whistleblower states he knows the crash retrieval projects by name so it will he interesting to see if there’s a revelation on it.

Recently on a body language analysis video on the whistleblower there was a very peculiar comment from a «J. Allen» on an account 11 years old.

This comment stated he was in the airforce for over 26 years and that the operation is called ZODIAC. (Interesting) also appeared to know or know of the whistleblower fairly well and states these are much more than spacecraft. These are inter-dimensional craft and the bodies are biological AI.

All interesting stuff, 👌

We just need to see how it all unfolds on the interview with NewsNation on Sunday at 9pm EST.

Zodiac is also mentioned in one of the Majestic Documents [memos](http://majesticdocuments.com/pdf/important_memo.pdf) dated from 7 July 1999. Page 2, point b:
“The group has been called by many names. The most recent was was used in 1992 and was identified by the name JEHOVAH. At one time it was called ZODIAC and may have changed in 1995.”

EDIT: added some more details.

Thank you for collating this. I did years ago here the name Program B rather than Zodiac but I’m really interested in this angle.

Here are some references from Jacques Vallee.

In Forbidden Science vol. 5, entry for Monday 8 May 2000:

> Hal, Eric, and I spent most of the day together, from the Luxor coffee shop to the Stratosphere, and to a Chevy’s restaurant with Eric’s family. We returned to the Luxor where the three of us went through the Search of the Obelisk ride, giggling like kids. Later, finding a private setting, we discussed two issues that hadn’t been brought up before the NIDS science board.
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> **The first topic concerned the revelations of a former TRW employee. An attorney friend of hers has gathered her testimony. She was part of a secret reverse-engineering project called Zodiac. Eric has compiled his own file, but it doesn’t lead to the verifiable, hard facts we need.**
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> More interesting is the story of Kit being briefed at “a very high level” about the UFO situation. He was told that there had been three verified cases of Alien landings, respectively in 1947, 1953, and 1984 (which would exclude Holloman, I pointed out). Kit is puzzled about the briefing; he trusts the people who gave it but is only half-convinced the information is true. It might be a test of his credulity and loyalty because it took place after odd conversations with foreigners at an arms control conference.
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> Now I relax in the neo-Egyptian splendor of this hollow black pyramid that would have astounded Thutmosis. The illuminations of Vegas are visible through the slanted triple windows on the 23rd floor. The Interop computer communications show begins tomorrow. Ubique, one of my portfolio companies, has an exhibit there.

And then 3 March 2001:

> The personal retreat of Joe Firmage in the Santa Cruz Mountains is a fine A-frame house hidden in the woods at the edge of a canyon near the summit, not far from the abandoned headquarters of an old California sect in Holy City. Under Bernie Haisch’s initiative Joe had invited nine participants to a meeting of his “inner circle,” including Bernie, Marsha, and me.
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> The other five were Hal Puthoff, Eric Davis, Michael Lindemann, with Larry Lemke and Al Holt from NASA.
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> This was a remarkable group, heavy with experience of classified projects, space operations, and the rumors of 30 years of ufology. But it was also a credulous bunch, motivated by expectation of an imminent breakthrough, government disclosures of an Alien presence in the States, if not the world. We had a light lunch Joe had prepared, some rice with meat, salad, and fruits (but no coffee, in Mormon tradition, which I found unfortunate).
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> I raised the usual objections: the best physical theories including those of Paul Hill (43) only describe 10% of the craft’s physics but fail to explain most UFO behavior; previous rumors of imminent disclosure have proven false or fraudulent; there may be more to the phenomenon than an extraterrestrial intervention; and the idea of a secret project in control of Alien hardware and biological specimens does not match the observed effects on society, or even the pace of our technology. Furthermore, as the mutilation incidents and Colm’s recent report show, the government may be all over the landscape with black programs fooling the public, ignoring any outrage.
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> The group listened politely but they remained unconvinced. Larry Lemke emphasized that we needed two Copernican revolutions, not just one, in order to understand the phenomenon. As a result, ignoring my arguments, the discussion went on under Firmage’s guidance as if the extraterrestrial theory was taken for granted.
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> Joe showed twenty slides to emphasize his point, including the potential impacts of the “imminent disclosure” on society. In desperation, I pointed out again that the same questions he was asking about the history of mankind, its ability to survive in space, and the origin of life in the universe were not new and were not even ufological. They are asked every day in genetics and in astronomy.
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> In the end we didn’t learn much. Hal did talk about his contact with a four-star general who once located a unique research project preserving UFO hardware, but it was never clear what the evidence consisted of (44). Four other sources were listed: a technology executive, a field researcher, an intelligence operative, and Larry Lemke’s own father who had an “R” clearance at Laurence Livermore Lab; he was once asked to machine some metal samples allegedly recovered from a saucer crash. **Eric Davis retold the story of Zodiac, which involves real people like Jerry Rosenberg, currently at IDA, and Dale Graff, who was part of the remote viewing experiments at Wright-Patterson. Eric has been told there are ten Velobind volumes at Wright-Pat with Roswell data concerning two crashed “Manta ray” shaped craft, recovered bodies, foil-type material, and a special study by TRW.**
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> In the absence of evidence, I’m cautious. These rumors are only supported by other rumors traced to “intelligence sources,” so in the end we know nothing. We continue to accumulate interesting stories told in fancy homes in beautiful California forests under the quiet rain. But there’s no science there, not even the beginnings of investigation, which would demand actual facts, real materials.

It’s mentioned here, regarding the alien autopsy (2001?) last page:

https://imgur.io/a/7D5xIGk

Any background on this “Kristen Zimmerman” mentioned by Hal Puthoff and Eric Davis in this NIDS email chain?

I mentioned this in another thread but Zodiac the company makes tech for aerial vehicular capture and retrieval. They got the space shuttle capsules out of the ocean

J. Allen, » A current aero-engineer for the USAF of 26 years and going » posted yesterday on here that » The program is called ZODIAC and that may or may not come out in the public hearings soon. «

4chan is fanfiction at best lol

Thank you for this, I tried to do my own research when I saw that YouTube comment, but couldn’t come up with anything

That is so stupid and easy to debunk not even trying just looking at the so called « source » and nothing stands. That Elizondo guy is an absolute scam. How can you acknowledge such a super secret SAP, formally stating « Yes, I heard of it. » but cannot give any details… if he cannot give any details at this level of secrecy, he can’t acknowledge the program itself. Makes no sense. Just easy for him to stir up an over gullible community with little to no implication. He basically just « green light » a theory, as if he was qualified to do so, and close up to create mystery. It’s the same as parents creating the magic of Santa Claus for kids ffs. Be wiser… also, a YOUTUBE COMMENT ? Have you ever looked at YouTube comments ?.. it’s not even worth mentioning, that’s the kind of stuff that removes all credibility from something that already had very little to begin with.. go watch MIB if you crave alien entertainment, at least there is effort put into their media.