[https://revu.nl/artikel/497168/nieuwe-revu-ziet-nieuw-bewijs-voor-buitenaards-leven-de-ufo-van-mussolini](https://revu.nl/artikel/497168/nieuwe-revu-ziet-nieuw-bewijs-voor-buitenaards-leven-de-ufo-van-mussolini) Не только Дэвид Груш, но и несколько других осведомителей в разведывательном сообществе вперед, среди них Джонатан Грей. Джонатан Грей — офицер поколения разведывательного сообщества США с допуском к совершенной секретности, в настоящее время работает в Национальном центре воздушной и космической разведки (NASIC), где его внимание было сосредоточено на анализе UAP. Ранее он имел опыт работы с частными аэрокосмическими и специальными оперативными группами Министерства обороны. ** Феномен нечеловеческого интеллекта реален. Мы не одни», — сказал Грей. «Этот тип запроса не ограничивается Соединенными Штатами. Это глобальное явление, однако глобальное решение по-прежнему ускользает от нас. ** Кроме того, выясняется, что существуют документы, доказывающие, что США захватили НЛО на Сицилии, Италия, у Муссолини во время Второй мировой войны.
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If this is half true we need to rewrite the history books.
What is a «generation officer»?
Lue Elizondo mentioned his in one of his early interviews. The first none retrieval was not Roswell but Italy. Moussalini who then gave It to the Nazis.
Summary:
Not only David Grusch but several other Whistleblowers within the Intelligence Community has come forward, among them, Jonathan Grey.
Jonathan Gray is a generation officer of the United States intelligence community with a Top-Secret Clearance currently working for the National Air and Space Intelligence Center ( NASIC ), where UAP’s analysis was his focus. He previously had experience with Private Aerospace and Special Directive Task Forces of the Department of Defense.
“ The non-human intelligence phenomenon is real. We’re not alone, ”said Gray. “ This type of query is not limited to the United States. This is a global phenomenon, yet a global solution continues to elude us. ”
Furthermore, it is revealed that documents exist, proving that US captured a UFO, in Sicily, Italy, from Mussolini during WW2.
Wow …. I remember reading about this years and years ago but assumed it was fake as I’d never seen any follow up.
This is incredible if true. The government has hidden the ufo phenomenon 100xtimes better than we could have imagined
I honestly don’t find the hiding of these things and the lying and the misinformation, incredible…
I fnd the existence of this stuff incredible… But not the deceit to keep it hidden.
**As a matter of fact, I completely understand why people in the know would be hesitant to tell the whole world…**…. *»Hey, by the way their really are intelligent creatures in outer space or other dimensions who visit our world occasionally and we are not sure how that may affect our future,, our spirituality, our religions, our society, our safety, or entire history… Okay go on with your day.. go buy hamburgers and Disney tickets and shit»*
This is the best year of my life
Now we need to know where they are hiding the craft and the bodies.
The craziest thing about this is that the “for the past 80 years” timeline I keep seeing would put the last confirmed event at 1943. Anyone want to guess what year Mussolini was deposed? Yup. 1943.
Ross was quite specific in correcting someone dating the phenomenon at 80 years. «Its more like 90» for this point to be made indicates a specific relevance of those additional 10 years.
It’s alleged this UFO crashed in the 1930s. Americans took it after they occupied Italy.
Based on newspapers from the 40’s, the ‘Orb’ UAP’s were thought to have been Nazi weapons. From that, we can re-construct a hypothetical chain of events.
The US takes place in the campaign to liberate Italy, and somehow a supposed Nazi craft is either accidentally shot down or crashes on its own. US forces are sent in to retrieve the Nazi tech, an interest they’ve had ever since the British have reported the *Foo Fighters.*
They quickly discover the craft is of ‘non-human’ origin, and promptly *freak the fuck out*. What follows is the beginning of a secret gov-operation to recover more tech, while other nations start to do the same, since trying to hide potentially alien shit from the allies would have been difficult. Over the years, we start developing advanced man-made craft that mimics the tech we uncovered. While they come nowhere close to achieving the same feats, they still go fucking fast.
Meanwhile, these silver, black, and transparent orbs keep appearing around the world. Part of a disinformation campaign begins, replacing the real orbs with ‘saucers’ and potentially ‘cigars.’ The public falls for it, and the idea of piloted or automated alien tech is laughed at. Until recently, where slowly the powers that be have acknowledged there’s *something* in our skies.
Who knows what tomorrow will bring?
Man, this is crazzzzyyyyyyy
Funny you say that
https://www.theblackvault.com/casefiles/the-ufo-files-of-mussolini-fascist-ufo-files-by-roberto-pinotti/
Roberto Pinotti did a deep dive into documents recovered. John Greenwald did a article on this . Another reason why the TheBlackVault is great.
> This material dealt with a purported flying saucer that had either crashed or landed near Magenta in Lombardy in Italy on April 11th, 1933, some fourteen years before the famous Roswell, New Mexico, UFO crash. This event involved a subsequent investigation by an obscure war time intelligence unit called “Gabinetto RS/33” (or RS/33 Cabinet ), ‘RS’ is the acronym for Ricerche Speciali or Special Researches, and 33 means 1933, this group had been authorized by Benito Mussolini to study the problem.
> Later the crashed UFO was stored in the hangars of the SIAI Marchetti in Vergiate. Mussolini thought that this “unconventional flying vehicle” was a French, British or German secret weapon, but apparently Guglielmo Marconi believed it was Extra-Terrestrial in nature.
Don’t flame me, it’s just a thought experiment. But what if Hitler and Mussolini had UFO wreckage and thought they could reverse engineer it to conquer the world.. and that’s what made them militarily aggressive? 🤔
regarding the ‘33 Italian ufo crash, it of course was covered up by mussolini, cables and memos prove he did, the behind the scene story is that “nordics” were found in craft dead, Italians thought it was a german craft at first. shared it with nazis/hitler this lead to the die glock (the bell) and hitlers obsession with building super race of blonde hair blue eyed people…yeah cray, but here we are in 2023 with our gov admitting to many ufo and species recovery
As someone who has always believed in aliens, but only toying or hardly believing that they’ve actually been here until recently, this is a very exciting time to go all in.
“that US captured a UFO, in Sicily, Italy, from Mussolini during WW2”
That should have been Indiana Jones 4.
«aLiEnS oNlY lAnD iN aMeRiCa» MF’s be real quite right now
Disclosure be happening like a shitty ex slowly confessing to all the times they cheated on you with this truth-dripping.
Could this mean that major events of world history (such as world war 1 & 2) could’ve been recorded by these UFOs?
I mean if they’ve been around for as long as they are saying, it wouldn’t sound insane if past major events have been documented? Right?
I’ve heard it said that WW2 was an extraterrestrial war fought with human hands. What if UFO’s and aliens have more to do with the history of the world than what we realize?
All my favourite sci Fi movie plots are coming true lol
Damn cant wait for the new Earth DLC Pack, Space Soviets fighting the Imperial Japanese Spacefleet
Wouldn’t it be nuts if the whole underwater gate meeting thing wasn’t bullshit and this dude was effectively the next “prophet” or spokesperson for the “gods”/Advanced Life. It seemed fucking nuts but honestly it fits into this in a weird way in my opinion.
Holy shit I use to work at NASIC never saw shit.
I need proof.
I need documents. I need pictures and video of said craft. I need to know exactly what we got from them. I need the govt departments in control of this crap to come forward with it.
I can’t take this «another whistle-blower» stuff. There have been people in the intelligence community that have said they know its real, but never prove it.
Prove it. Stop hyping your name up for your best selling memoir. We all know it’ll come in a few years whether something is proven or not.
I need proof.
Well holy shit, I wonder if the whole of WWII was *really* about UFOs in some capacity, or at least heavily influenced by misinterpreted crashed aliens/NHIs. When you look at the whole arian race supposedly being descended from Atlantis, the technologically advanced civilization from legend, and then the Italian crash supposedly having two bodies of tall white blonde haired and blue eyed pilots in a technologically advanced machine…
The more we hear about this I think the «somber/sober» part is as much or more about how *we* have done terrible shit to control this technology/information than it is about the aliens being nefarious or whatever.
* I may be crossing threads about the occupants, but I’m pretty sure one of the things I read recently saying the Italian ufo had the «Nordics» type pilots.
Edit! Found the post about the 1933 Italian crash [here. ](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/u6j041/in_1933_an_ufo_allegedly_crashed_in_italy_and/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
How could it have been kept secret? Italians knew, Nazi’s knew, all the US military who shipped it out of Italy?? Doesn’t make sense
Drudge has this story up yesterday and has taken it down.
Not only the Sicilian one: I’m from Milan and it is quite known here the story of the Vergiate UFO, crashed during WWII. Allegedly, it was stored within the hangars of Siai-Marchetti (one of the most important aero-industry in the 40s). Here it is a link from one of the major Italian newspaper.
https://www.lastampa.it/cronaca/2017/03/20/news/il-mistero-dell-ufo-che-spavento-mussolini-e-spari-in-america-1.34638554/amp/
You can translate it with Deepl: in the article it seems that after the Italian liberation, the US army took it and packed it to the USA.
I’ve read an early 2000s article on bibliotecapleaydes about the US stealing a UFO craft from mussolini in ww2. And I remember this because I thought «oh, this was before Roswell» and it stayed in my memory.
Very interesting revelations
Elizando has told this story before on podcasts. That is interesting.
I wonder if the Nazi Bell «Die Glocke» is mentioned in any of these documents. Seems more and more plausible that they may have found an intact and/or still functioning UAP and were trying to reverse engineer it.
What kind of document is it?
In earlier stories, it was mentioned that he made a complaint to the Inspector General about being harassed and intimidated.
If this is a complaint form, it might just be an acknowledgement that the complaint was received and will be investigated — but not speaking to the truth of the underlying claims.
IE:
-I am being harassed for whistleblowing about aliens, Italy, and secret illegal programs!
-We will investigate your claims of harassment. Signed, IG
I thought ha was not allowed to show the documents?
Ok, so we’re basically living in a movie at this point, got it.
This story is better than any sci-fi movie plot
For the bad grades I received in history class, IT BETTER BE CHANGED TO AN A
Not just Italy, they probably confiscated one from Greece as well. See «Ghost Rockets»
Greek investigation:
«In a 1967 lecture to the Greek Astronomical Society, broadcast on Athens Radio, Santorinis first publicly revealed what had been found in his 1947 investigation. «We soon established that they were not missiles. But, before we could do any more, the Army, after conferring with foreign officials (presumably U.S. Defense Dept.), ordered the investigation stopped. Foreign scientists [from Washington] flew to Greece for secret talks with me». Later Santorinis told UFO researchers such as Raymond Fowler that secrecy was invoked because officials were afraid to admit of a superior technology against which we have «no possibility of defense».[8]»
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_rockets
I can already hear the high-level spooks responding to this paradigm shifting news: “Our singular duty was to safeguard the American people”
Oh god, I hope the moon landing is still real though…
Such an incredible reach here. I mean, I’m not saying it isn’t true, but I’m saying it has incredible, far reaching implications. The grandeur. If half true, in my opinion it’s so so difficult to think not one iota of a discussion was never leaked. For 80 years.
Wonder if he’s seen Bob Lazars craft they found during an archaeological dig?