Это изобличающие доказательства того, что это авиационные ракеты, сброшенные во время военных учений. https://twitter.com/blackvaultcom/status/1661056301408096256?t=KvR1sEAGfDQK6Fltnbdi6w&s=19 Корбелл и Кнапп знали об этом. Либо они лицо дезинформации и сокрытия, либо они тупы как мешок с кирпичами, либо они мошенники. Ответ не годится для уфологии. Изменить: хочу уточнить, что я задаю вопрос о компетенции Корбелла и Кнаппа и о том, добросовестно ли они представляют такие вещи или нет. Для меня это доказательство того, что они либо не исследовали это должным образом, либо намеренно упустили информацию (о военных учениях в ту же ночь), чтобы продвигать собственное повествование. Для меня это разрушило их репутацию раз и навсегда. Редактировать 2: мод прикрепил комментарий, потому что формулировка заголовка моей темы может быть воспринята как попытка «приманки для клика», когда я написал, что «они знали», что они были вспышками. Плохо, что я так плохо сформулировал, но вам не разрешено редактировать заголовки сообщений. Я мог бы написать, что они «должны были знать», но я чувствую, что после двух лет изучения этого дела, а затем неупоминания о военных учениях означает, что они знали и решили опустить эту информацию, поскольку она опровергает их заявление. . Мое мнение.
Honestly I think Jeremy Corbell just isn’t that intelligent. I don’t blame him or attribute anything like this to malice or disinformation. He’s just not that bright. Podcasts with him are just so cringe. It’s like listening to a man-child.
I think I need to walk away from the ufo
Bullshit for awhile
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When your income stream depends on finding «undeniable» UFOs, you end up finding a lot of them.
I really can’t believe the amount of cope happening with this one. Blackvault getting such downvotes? Damn son you need to learn who the good guys are, because he’s one of them. Corbell omitted a very relevant part of the story that John himself says only took a few minutes to find. Just because the people in Corbell’s videos didn’t know about it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
Reminds me of that «ufo video» someone released a few weeks ago….which turned out to have been filmed from Elizondo’s yard
Reading the main thread about the initial drop makes this community seem like an absolute joke.
People inventing reasons which mostly amounts to just describing details of the video to say «look here’s proof that these 100% are not flares!»
I encourage everyone to go back and read it.
It’d be comical if it wasn’t so sad how quickly people transform onto experts on military flares.
I really hope that this is going to make Jeremy Kenyon Lockyer Corbell disappear for a while.
Mr. “Investigative journalist” who investigates obvious flares for two years and then releases it with fanfare, only to be debunked within 8 hours.
If he has a tiny bit of pride left, he should hide for a while
Corbell is intolerable.
Why is George Knapp still so respected? Not asking in a wtf-way. Genuinely curious. Im just a few years in this topic so i just kinda know he broke the Lazar-thing. Was he one of the first “real” (or whatever) journalists who talked about ufos? As far as i know LindaMoulton Howe was also one of the first journalists doing serious stuff about ufos (or rather cattle mutations at first, right?) and now she believes video game-covers are real photos. Why is Knapp still going strong? Isn’t he, more or less, “responsible” for Corbell? Think i’ve heard Corbell say Knapp helped him a lot etc
I pointed this out in the original posts and got absolutely assaulted by downvotes and hate. In order for the real evidence to come out, we need to weed out the fakes. Why are people so hostile when faced with reality and truth?
This shit has become even more of a joke
They’re not dumb. They’re laughing at how easily they can fool their viewers. Look how many people were acting like those clips were something interesting.
Wilfull ignorance or deliberate deception: those are the only two options for both Knapp and Corbell. I find it very hard to believe they didn’t know the entire story was just a military exercise but decided to run with it anyway.
That not ‘investigative’ journalism. It’s not even tabloid journalism [although Christopher Sharp made sure it got into that tabloid shit-sheet, the Daily Mail.]
Such a frustrating topic to be interested in when people are constantly pulling stunts like this.
These guys know their core audience and understand that most of them will accept just about anything, as presented… and defend it.
This is why debunkers need to exist.
Excellent work John, I believe you’ve explained it quite well: https://youtu.be/D_piRRyCCKM
As so many have said; if you tell me you spent two years researching something (for which a photo has been online for those two years and called “flares” already) and then do this — you are disingenuous, at best
THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS!!!!
I’ve been trying to tell people for years this “crew “ is FULL OF SHIT!!!”
-Bob Lazar (duh)
-George Knapp claims he had video evidence of proof Bob was telling the truth , but “LOST” the video evidence of a science experiment that would change the world. He said he just put the video in his living room and forgot about it!!!!!! Of evidence that would change science!!! Lol.
-this bullshit today! As well as other suspect videos. “The triangle toasters!”
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Ah, another reason to hate Corbell.
Jeremy Corbell is the Todd Standing of Ufology.
I agree with you, this looks really bad.
He spends half the video talking about how they’re not flares, and pretending not to understand the difference between the flares that are shot at the end of the video, and the flares dropped from the plane. I’m getting really sick of these grifters. I wish there was someone actually trying to find the truth in an entertaining way.
I love the common argument in these threads that the military wouldn’t fly secret or stealth aircraft in public areas…
That’s literally the first thing I commented because I saw the almost exact same thing when I was in 29 palms over a decade ago. We saw them doing war games/excercises at night and you could see flares in different formations and hear the booming and firing going on over at the base.
I stopped listening to anything Cornell said after his JRE episode. The dude just seemed so eager to justify and obfuscate. He was just rambling and interrupting everyone. It was bad.
Nobody should be shocked that Corbellend is a shameless grifter. 10 minutes of his Bob Lazar ~~documentary~~ vanity project should tell you everything you need to know about the man.
Have to keep those clicks going and engagement to make those dollars. Anything will do, really.
I thought he said that after the witnesses saw the triangle lights, they sent up flares so they could see it better and take better pictures.
So wait, let me get this straight. We have 50 plus soldiers make comments themselves about how these aren’t flares, making comments that there is complete silence in the background, no gunfire, no explosions, no sound of aircraft, etc. We have photos and videos from the soldiers that don’t recognize these, these same soldiers that are involved in these training exercises, and then surprise less than a week later the military says it was conducting training exercises and that they were flares.
So essentially we have over 50 soldiers who don’t know what flares are? We have over 50 soldiers that can’t differentiate between training flares and a triangular object in the sky the size of a three-story house?
Something is amiss here, it’s either we have very uneducated and irrational soldiers who have never seen training flares in their life, or we have a simple cover up of a genuine sighting.
-Edit- Yea i’m convinced flares. Oof on soldiers part.
Show the video of the flares, not just a screen grab.
Time for a break for me. Sometimes this topic can be exhausting lol
I don’t understand, why are they flares?
Most of this crowd here , pisses about this , needs to go to r/ufoscience or similar .
The believe anything cult is ridiculous and needs to go away.
When you scroll these comments, you can see the effects of disinformation are abundant.
How do people still believe these guys after the “best picture ever taken” turns out to be taken on Lues ranch and they just “forgot” to mention that. That was only a month or so ago.
Jeremy comes across as dishonest and untrustworthy because he is, you got to trust your gut especially when everyone’s initial instinct is the same
Anyone who has spent more than 5 minutes on these forums should have recognized these as aircraft flares immediately. People post flares at least once a month and they are always debunked.
Corbell is a huckster or a spook. Not sure which. Should have been obvious when he was caught making films in his backyard.