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Thank god for Greenewald. This isn’t about John pissing on anyone’s chips. This is about Corbell and Knapp deliberately withholding information to sell a narrative.
I’m baffled by how military personnel said it’s not flares, and then clearly flares were shot up at it and looked completely different. Yet flares are the general explanation. Can someone who was at this «exercise» please come forward? We need clarification.
The USS Nimitz Tic-Tac event in 2004 quite literally happened during a military exercise.
I do appreciate what Greenewald does, and I think this happening during a day when military exercises were known to have happened is a completely reasonable point/question to bring up regarding the incident and I’m glad he did. However, I think he might be a bit flawed in his thinking. Especially when we consider the history and context of how the coverup continues:
Any legitimate UAP sightings over military bases? Scramble some aircraft to drop flares, call it «military exercises» on the books. Debunks the case naturally, it’s literally what they did with the Phoenix lights incident of the late 90s 🤷
I agree with other comments here. We simply need more data that we currently do not have.
This is what happens when you have a «trust me bro» pretending to be a journalist. Honestly he should go after this one. There is a pattern here, and at this point I think the conversation would be better served with out this dumb Weaponized podcast distractions. Down vote me, but honestly they are just telling you exactly what you want to hear and its blinding most folks around here to not even consider basic Occam’s Razor logic. I honestly don’t know what the fuck George Knapp is doing with this joker, but truth be told perhaps he’s no better than Corbell at sniffing out bullshit, but he’s just never had a platform to expose himself on the regular like this diluted podcast has been providing. I was done months ago but I hope this is the wake up call others need to see through this guy. He wants a popular show more than he wants the truth.. trust me on this brother!
I haven’t got a chance to look at Corbell’s episode but I remember explicitly hearing marine testimony when I quickly glossed over this morning. Is Greenstreet going against the marine testimony, suggesting they are lying or don’t know what flares are?
At this point ‘investigative journalist’ Jeremy Corbell needs to permanently disappear into the background because this latest farce of his and Knapp’s, following a *two-fucking-year* investigation [lol] is shameful.
Anyone who thinks this is kind of shite is either helpful or constructive is just deluding themselves because it’s not. It’s totally counter-productive and damaging to a topic that’s already in the gutter of credibility.
These threads are examples of why disclosure is being drip fed to us.
This community is so hostile to any information coming out that it doesn’t surprise me that people don’t want to come forward with the truth. They will only be called a grifter.
And you can’t say “ Oh well we will know the truth when we see it “ because that’s not true. People have their own beliefs about this phenomenon, and attack anything that doesn’t agree with it.
I’m sick of seeing the word “ grifter “. It’s just a buzzword used in this sub to explain away anything or anybody that someone doesn’t agree with.
when jeremy’s documentary on skinwalker ranch came out, i commented in a thread about how shitty the doc was, and this one account kept coming at me defending jeremy, and looking in my old accounts post history to make fun of me posting a picture of canned refried beans in a sub for shitty vegan food.
he said something like “at least this guy (talking about jeremy) is a renowned film maker, your greatest achievement is posting a can of beans on the internet”
then several other people commenting, and i, looked thru this accounts post history and it turned out to be jeremy himself, pretending to be someone else, defending himself against anyone who said anything negative about his documentary. he deleted his account before i could get screenshots, and i eventually lost access to my account too.
really random, but i haven’t taken anything jeremy has done seriously since then, and i feel like it’s a good representation of his character.
You wanna know how you can tell it’s not aliens? It’s beside a military base for an eternity and not one jet or helicopter goes near it. I’m sure if it was something serious that entire base would have been mobile.
I wish we could do a “UAP source accuracy tier list” for this sub that rates the reliability of people like George Knapp, Jeremy Corbell, James Fox, Jacque Valle, etc. It would really help separate the wheat from the chaff.
John Greenewald Just Live Streamed Comments on the «Mojave Triangle» on YT:
*Today, Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp released numerous UAP videos along with testimony from a case in 2021 which occurred over Twentynine Palms, California.*
*But, is this entirely being misrepresented?*
*Here’s the story, and the research to go along with it.*
I discussed this and said I bet it was, pardon the line, a training exercise. Black vault found there was training that very day.
I mean come on, a 2 year investigation? They didn’t once consider that the first response of a low flying object over a very big military installation was to fire a flare at it?! Really lol
Is there any prolonged (multiple minutes) video of this incident? I hypothesize that if such video is found, and if the horizon is detectable within said video, the unknown objects will be observed to be closer to the horizon at the end of the video than at the beginning.
But I do have a quibble with Greenewald’s analysis. He points out that the lights shift slightly indicating to him that they aren’t fixed points on a solid shape.
No problem. Right?
Yet when he shows the Mick West flopped comparison, which he calls a perfect match, there is a significant shift in the position of some lights.
Again, it doesn’t mean it’s not misidentified flares.
It just means when your criticism concerns slightly shifting light positions in the photos/video supposedly depicting a UFO, you should acknowledge slightly shifting light positions in the debunking of that video and not simply gloss over that and describe it as a perfect match, when it was not.
I wouldn’t call Knapp or Corbell «investigative». If they added the missing information, they would not get as many likes or viewers for their program. This is very deceitful.
I don’t get how military members can’t identify flares? I’m a prior service member, in basic training you get demonstrated on multiple occasions flares. Idk how or why the natural and even more sane conclusion is, “military members don’t know anything” and the oh they clearly can’t identify a flare. Ffs just because you can reverse a image, resize the image, and then fucking reposition it on top of something till it fits you agenda doesn’t means absolutely nothing. Not saying it’s not a possibility but when it comes to credibility you guys need to decide if Mick West is reliable or not because this is absolutely ridiculous. He isn’t a scientist and just because there was a training event occurring doesn’t mean anything either? How does that lean towards credibility of something? I want better results then trust me bro method, atleast Jeremy brought out witnesses, videos, and photos. If he is wrong sure, but then we must then turn the focus on the witnesses and the agenda of those in the military if they are deciding to create hoaxes? Because aswell, you will be dumb as hell to go into the media and put training events video on camera and sight locations etc etc, without fear of repercussion from the military if they found out that bs. Hard pass on believing the black vault and Mick, I’ll believe the brothers in service who been on the ground not a keyboard warrior behind a screen.
It looks like a string of tiny white led lights hovering in place and not doing anything that small quad copter drones couldn’t do and a few still shots of what are clearly clusters of illumination flares.
Corbel goes on about how the flares descend and the craft disappears, but it seems more likely to me that the brightness of the flares washes out the tiny led lights and the drones themselves would just be tiny specks if visible at all.
There’s just not enough here to get excited about.
John raises some great points but he also comes to an assumption that negates an element of the evidence provided by Corbell. You can hear on the video someone state the lights are part of a structure. Unfortunately, John does the very same thing he accuses Corbell of doing when he doesn’t address that comment and points to it been flares.
I get Johns point. But honestly, how long do flares stay in the air? The marines on bases were reporting these lights to be in the sky for 25+ minutes.
Thank You John Greenewald… you prob just ended Corbell and I ain’t mad at ya, now that all this has come out, I wonder what the motive was putting that episode of weaponized out, after what John just showed us, you can not tell me Corbell or George didn’t know. Seems kinda nefarious to me
When it comes to flares, and this question spans all possible Misidentification with flares and UFO’s. Is there any reason why they all seem to take on a triangular form, like in the picture or even the phoenix lights ? And others as well? Why do they always shoot flares in that formation ?
Thank god for Greenewald. This isn’t about John pissing on anyone’s chips. This is about Corbell and Knapp deliberately withholding information to sell a narrative.
I’m baffled by how military personnel said it’s not flares, and then clearly flares were shot up at it and looked completely different. Yet flares are the general explanation. Can someone who was at this «exercise» please come forward? We need clarification.
Edit: Spelling
The USS Nimitz Tic-Tac event in 2004 quite literally happened during a military exercise.
I do appreciate what Greenewald does, and I think this happening during a day when military exercises were known to have happened is a completely reasonable point/question to bring up regarding the incident and I’m glad he did. However, I think he might be a bit flawed in his thinking. Especially when we consider the history and context of how the coverup continues:
Any legitimate UAP sightings over military bases? Scramble some aircraft to drop flares, call it «military exercises» on the books. Debunks the case naturally, it’s literally what they did with the Phoenix lights incident of the late 90s 🤷
I agree with other comments here. We simply need more data that we currently do not have.
This is what happens when you have a «trust me bro» pretending to be a journalist. Honestly he should go after this one. There is a pattern here, and at this point I think the conversation would be better served with out this dumb Weaponized podcast distractions. Down vote me, but honestly they are just telling you exactly what you want to hear and its blinding most folks around here to not even consider basic Occam’s Razor logic. I honestly don’t know what the fuck George Knapp is doing with this joker, but truth be told perhaps he’s no better than Corbell at sniffing out bullshit, but he’s just never had a platform to expose himself on the regular like this diluted podcast has been providing. I was done months ago but I hope this is the wake up call others need to see through this guy. He wants a popular show more than he wants the truth.. trust me on this brother!
I haven’t got a chance to look at Corbell’s episode but I remember explicitly hearing marine testimony when I quickly glossed over this morning. Is Greenstreet going against the marine testimony, suggesting they are lying or don’t know what flares are?
It’s very possible that the marines are trolling Jeremy.
I like this guy. Hes a regular on this sub and isn’t afraid to call out the BS with proof to back it up. 👏
He’s like the Jesus Christ of UFOlogy, risking crucifixion by the talking heads and their cronies
At this point ‘investigative journalist’ Jeremy Corbell needs to permanently disappear into the background because this latest farce of his and Knapp’s, following a *two-fucking-year* investigation [lol] is shameful.
Anyone who thinks this is kind of shite is either helpful or constructive is just deluding themselves because it’s not. It’s totally counter-productive and damaging to a topic that’s already in the gutter of credibility.
Fucking Jeremy.
It is laughable that this sub ruthlessly downvotes anything that challenges a non-human-origin explanation.
If the non-human-origin theory for a case is so weak that it can’t handle a little speculation in the other direction then don’t take it seriously.
These threads are examples of why disclosure is being drip fed to us.
This community is so hostile to any information coming out that it doesn’t surprise me that people don’t want to come forward with the truth. They will only be called a grifter.
And you can’t say “ Oh well we will know the truth when we see it “ because that’s not true. People have their own beliefs about this phenomenon, and attack anything that doesn’t agree with it.
I’m sick of seeing the word “ grifter “. It’s just a buzzword used in this sub to explain away anything or anybody that someone doesn’t agree with.
How incredibly dumb. I completly misread the whole thing myself. Great job by JG Jr. But are they flares then, or slow flying Ospreys?
What this man says, I believe. He really does investigate everything. Great job to you John Greenewald !
when jeremy’s documentary on skinwalker ranch came out, i commented in a thread about how shitty the doc was, and this one account kept coming at me defending jeremy, and looking in my old accounts post history to make fun of me posting a picture of canned refried beans in a sub for shitty vegan food.
he said something like “at least this guy (talking about jeremy) is a renowned film maker, your greatest achievement is posting a can of beans on the internet”
then several other people commenting, and i, looked thru this accounts post history and it turned out to be jeremy himself, pretending to be someone else, defending himself against anyone who said anything negative about his documentary. he deleted his account before i could get screenshots, and i eventually lost access to my account too.
really random, but i haven’t taken anything jeremy has done seriously since then, and i feel like it’s a good representation of his character.
You wanna know how you can tell it’s not aliens? It’s beside a military base for an eternity and not one jet or helicopter goes near it. I’m sure if it was something serious that entire base would have been mobile.
excellent work as usual
It’s flares. Just like it always is.
I wish we could do a “UAP source accuracy tier list” for this sub that rates the reliability of people like George Knapp, Jeremy Corbell, James Fox, Jacque Valle, etc. It would really help separate the wheat from the chaff.
THANKS JOHN! this is why corbell is a joke…lol just terrible reporting and research.
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John Greenewald Just Live Streamed Comments on the «Mojave Triangle» on YT:
*Today, Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp released numerous UAP videos along with testimony from a case in 2021 which occurred over Twentynine Palms, California.*
*But, is this entirely being misrepresented?*
*Here’s the story, and the research to go along with it.*
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_piRRyCCKM&list=WL&index=3&ab_channel=TheBlackVaultOriginals](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_piRRyCCKM&list=WL&index=3&ab_channel=TheBlackVaultOriginals)
[https://twitter.com/blackvaultcom/status/1661085384153919488?cxt=HHwWgMCzgeWWro0uAAAA](https://twitter.com/blackvaultcom/status/1661085384153919488?cxt=HHwWgMCzgeWWro0uAAAA)
Someone just trying to monetize your curiosity
I discussed this and said I bet it was, pardon the line, a training exercise. Black vault found there was training that very day.
I mean come on, a 2 year investigation? They didn’t once consider that the first response of a low flying object over a very big military installation was to fire a flare at it?! Really lol
Is there any prolonged (multiple minutes) video of this incident? I hypothesize that if such video is found, and if the horizon is detectable within said video, the unknown objects will be observed to be closer to the horizon at the end of the video than at the beginning.
Corbell yet again pushing complete and utter bullshit while Doing zero proper analysis or investigation. I detest this guy.
I’m not sold at all by the Knapp/Corbell video.
But I do have a quibble with Greenewald’s analysis. He points out that the lights shift slightly indicating to him that they aren’t fixed points on a solid shape.
No problem. Right?
Yet when he shows the Mick West flopped comparison, which he calls a perfect match, there is a significant shift in the position of some lights.
Again, it doesn’t mean it’s not misidentified flares.
It just means when your criticism concerns slightly shifting light positions in the photos/video supposedly depicting a UFO, you should acknowledge slightly shifting light positions in the debunking of that video and not simply gloss over that and describe it as a perfect match, when it was not.
I wouldn’t call Knapp or Corbell «investigative». If they added the missing information, they would not get as many likes or viewers for their program. This is very deceitful.
The picture looks hauntingly close to something I’ve seen
So they fired up illumination rounds at flares? Who ok’d that?
I don’t get how military members can’t identify flares? I’m a prior service member, in basic training you get demonstrated on multiple occasions flares. Idk how or why the natural and even more sane conclusion is, “military members don’t know anything” and the oh they clearly can’t identify a flare. Ffs just because you can reverse a image, resize the image, and then fucking reposition it on top of something till it fits you agenda doesn’t means absolutely nothing. Not saying it’s not a possibility but when it comes to credibility you guys need to decide if Mick West is reliable or not because this is absolutely ridiculous. He isn’t a scientist and just because there was a training event occurring doesn’t mean anything either? How does that lean towards credibility of something? I want better results then trust me bro method, atleast Jeremy brought out witnesses, videos, and photos. If he is wrong sure, but then we must then turn the focus on the witnesses and the agenda of those in the military if they are deciding to create hoaxes? Because aswell, you will be dumb as hell to go into the media and put training events video on camera and sight locations etc etc, without fear of repercussion from the military if they found out that bs. Hard pass on believing the black vault and Mick, I’ll believe the brothers in service who been on the ground not a keyboard warrior behind a screen.
Hold your horses everyone, do not believe the debunkers, let’s wait and see where this goes!
Beautifully debunked, and now Knapp is officially off my credible list.
Disappointing.
They don’t match John and Mick! Dingbats.
It looks like a string of tiny white led lights hovering in place and not doing anything that small quad copter drones couldn’t do and a few still shots of what are clearly clusters of illumination flares.
Corbel goes on about how the flares descend and the craft disappears, but it seems more likely to me that the brightness of the flares washes out the tiny led lights and the drones themselves would just be tiny specks if visible at all.
There’s just not enough here to get excited about.
John raises some great points but he also comes to an assumption that negates an element of the evidence provided by Corbell. You can hear on the video someone state the lights are part of a structure. Unfortunately, John does the very same thing he accuses Corbell of doing when he doesn’t address that comment and points to it been flares.
Seems the government is doing damage control
Greenewald is a moron
It reeks of envie and I child like arguments.
I always respect but now finally some one messed up. And I am so gona have a go at it
For fuck sakes finally Government’s all over the world acknowledge Ufo.
And you go after one another..
John G. Shame on you.
This is the last thing we need. The pepole suppressing evidence the ones keeping us all in the dark is loving this.
DONT LOOK UP.
They’re different pictures. One is flares, you can see the streams of embers coming off in the night vision. The other is completely different.
“It’s over Johnny. It’s over!”
I get Johns point. But honestly, how long do flares stay in the air? The marines on bases were reporting these lights to be in the sky for 25+ minutes.
Thank You John Greenewald… you prob just ended Corbell and I ain’t mad at ya, now that all this has come out, I wonder what the motive was putting that episode of weaponized out, after what John just showed us, you can not tell me Corbell or George didn’t know. Seems kinda nefarious to me
I hope the government comes out and says clearly these were not flares!
AARO evidently are looking into it so, the egg will be on the face of Mick West and John Greenewald
When it comes to flares, and this question spans all possible Misidentification with flares and UFO’s. Is there any reason why they all seem to take on a triangular form, like in the picture or even the phoenix lights ? And others as well? Why do they always shoot flares in that formation ?